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About this mod
This mod adjusts ALL weapons, not just the ones you can pick up. NPC health is more normalized, Turrets are deadly (yours and theirs) and things you used to laugh at like Vertibirds are now very dangerous. Difficulty is raised overall. Please read the full description.
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Difficulty and Realism Overhaul 2.1. If you shot a human in the head with a missile launcher and he was still alive.... if you noticed certain humans have 30X more health than other humans... if you noticed certain enemies were way too weak and others too strong... if you noticed the world levels to YOU... if you noticed you can go AFK while a Vertibird is shooting you and come back alive and all these things and more made you say:
Then this mod might be for you.
IMPORTANT: This mod is intended for NORMAL difficulty OR SURVIVAL with a mod to make damage 1:1. You WILL get wrecked on hard or survival under normal conditions due to the increased difficulty.
I left the old versions up for people who like them, to get the proper mod experience use 2.0-2.1 versions of all the mods. You will not get a proper experience if you do not use the perk mod, or player health mod, for example.
This mod should be as close to last in the load order as possible to work right. Only my weapon replacer patches should come after it, nothing else. It has no adverse effects on mods like companion mods that don't mess with other NPCs weapon/armor/health/damage values. Quest mods work "well enough" but any weapons or armor they add will be worthless, and some NPCs may have vanilla over inflated health. It isn't game destroying, it just means you need to do 10 minutes of editing work on the mod yourself or deal with these issues.
The purpose of this mod is to fix the numerous problems I found with Fallout 4, such as enemies having too much or too little health (the first raider you meet has 30 health and the toughest gunner has 1300 health in the retail game) weapons scaling too much with mods and perks, certain enemies being way too weak, (Robots and Vertibirds) and to overall make the game harder. In addition, this mod is for people who want tough, exciting combat but do not like scrounging for ammo or struggling to heal after a fight, I would say that is the main difference between this mod and Horizon. While Horizon is a very good mod, I personally just want fun combat without having to worry about how I am going to heal, or that I can't use my minigun because there is no ammo for it. While there is some realism to that aspect, we have to consider that you are 1 person vs 1000's of enemies... so I think we can ignore that fact that ammo and healing is easier to find than it might otherwise be 210 years after the world was destroyed.
People have also inquired as to how this is different than Better Locational Damage. Both mods are old, closing in on 5 years, and developed over time. I think it's fair to say the BLD author has done a lot more updates and evolved his mod. That said, from the description, a 10mm headshot just kills any human, instantly, no matter what. That IMO, is "too realistic" and just makes things a bit easy if you use VATS or are a good shot. If you have played classic Counter Strike (like 1999 version) This mod is like that... no armor and a strong gun = 1 shot to the head (usually), good armor and a tough human might be 2-3 shots. A .308 has a better 1 headshot chance than a 5.56.
Also, this mod does a ton of other things, like rebalance enemies. Robots are the top tier enemies they should be (A Sentry Bot is made of hardened steel and has Miniguns... it will chew Deathclaws to pieces) Vertibirds got a needed buff, Animals had stat adjustments to be faster, Supermutants got a buff they needed to be actually a little bit super, etc. This mod also rebalances weapons, pretty much all weapons. "Embedded weapons" (weapons you can't pick up, like robot lasers or turret guns) included. Weapon mods don't increase weapon damage as much... this made ZERO sense. Another thing it does that was a huge pet peeve of mine is change outfits so NPCs usually wear a more reasonable suit. Seriously, who goes "ok I'm going to wear armor on my left arm and left leg... but nowhere else. Yeah, this is good" What? Even if you were lacking other pieces, why would you bother? Why leave your torso and head unprotected AND unbalance yourself? NPCs dress less like total clowns in this mod, vs Vanilla. I can't be the only one why was bothered by this.
Anyway, I know BLD is a great mod, this mod is just the same basic idea with a different vision. It's up to you to try both and pick. Read the descriptions carefully, play test both (just spawn in enemies with console commands, see what you like better) Make you choice, simple as that. As stated below, the biggest negitive to this mod is that it so greatly changes the stats of weapons, weapon mods, enemy health, armor etc that if you want to use weapon/armor/npc mods you will need to edit the damage/armor/health values yourself... which is very easy but can be time consuming. I mention this more than once in this description so people understand this.
Here is a list of just some of the changes this mod makes:
- Human health has been normalized. Humans will now have between 250 and 550 health, player included. In the base game human health ranged from 30-1300 which was idiotic. Human enemies are now more dangerous based on their weapons, armor, and combat skills (chance to hit) not just over inflated health.
- Certain enemies are faster than others, for example Deathclaws, Dogs, and Assaultrons are much faster now... you can't out run them. Fight to the death or don't get seen in the first place.
- Robots have have armor.. gunpowder based weapons are highly ineffective against them. Pulse grenades now only damage robotic enemies and do huge damage to them. Pulse stuns humans but does no damage.
- Weapons are hugely adjusted. They start off doing MUCH more damage, but mods do not increase gunpowder based gun damage, rather their handling, rate of fire, and other aspects. Now you can pick up a gun and its somewhat useful. Lasers almost no recoil, Plasma does enormous damage but quickly loses damage over range. Missiles are HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) Thus do enormous damage to single targets with high armor penetration but very little AoE damage.
- Examples of weapon damage and adjustments would be 5.56 doing 157 damage and .45 doing 180. However, 5.56 keeps is energy for a longer distance and will still be powerful at range, where .45 steadily loses damage over range. I tried to strike a balance between realism and game play when setting damage values. 5mm has 30-40% armor penetration based on the gun. Lower damage than 5.56 but usually higher rate of fire and armor penetration.
Assault Rifle is now .308 with a lower rate of fire, combat rifle is 5.56, Sub Machine Gun (Tommy Gun) now has some ammo conversions.
- Body part damage is adjusted. In Vanilla head shots were 200% damage and every other part was 100%. In this mod, head is 325%, torso is 150%, Arms are 60% and legs are 80% for humans. Aim for heads and torsos for quick take downs. However, Robots take greatly reduced damage to the torso as that's where the thickest armor is... aim elsewhere. Different enemies have different vulnerabilities. On average, a human in no armor will die from 2 5.56 shots to the torso, however armor will have a large impact on this. Light armor maybe take 3 shots to die, heavy combat armor might take 8.
- The game is HUGELY more dangerous overall. You will need to run away, lay traps, use grenades, call in arty strikes or use NPCs to help you. You must use cover, you will die if you play the game like Vanilla.
- Perks are greatly adjusted. Toughness for example, is good now. ranged weapon perks no longer increase damage of the weapons, as this made no sense.
- Changed enemy equipment. I have seen a lot of people complain that there should be more low level melee raiders, well now there are. I also changed outfits, no longer will you see gunners with right leg armor and left arm but nothing else... that made no sense what so ever. Enemies such as Gunners and High level raiders now wear a full set.
- Combat against human enemies will be faster and more deadly overall. A Deathclaw will take much more firepower to kill than a few Gunners, but the Gunners may be more dangerous overall, as they have ranged weapons. It will depend on your build, tactics and weapon load out.
- Power armor is buffed, you take much less damage in it vs the Vanilla game, but enemies are also more deadly. Use Power Armor for tough situations or if you just want things a bit easier... however you will still die if you rush out into the open against multiple powerful enemies.
- I recommend Several mods to use with this: 1) I did not touch Minutemen (other than human health and armor/weapon values which of course effect them) because I use "We are the Minutemen" https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6443/ 2) Arbitration is a good companion to this mod, but make sure Difficulty and Realism is lower (meaning loaded AFTER) in the load order. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2037/ 3) Fusion City, Outcasts and Remnants, and Project Valkyrie work fine with the patches provided. 4) Any companion mod works fine.
WEAPON/ARMOR GUIDE: Get any weapon mod you want, but if there isn't a patch here you MUST edit them to work properly with this mod. 5.56 does 157, .308 auto is 240, .308 bolt action is 300, .44 is 300 (but lower range and loses energy faster than rifle rounds), .45 is 180, .38 is 110-120 (based on weapon quality... pipe guns are bad, mmmkay) lasers are a base of 150 but have multiple damage mods. Make it whatever you want... it's your game but those are some guides. Receivers do not increase damage of gunpowder weapons unless it's an ammo conversion (so 5.56 to .308 would be a multiplier of 0.53 in the editor... yes ZERO.53, not 1.53. 1.53 would give you 397 instead of 240 (157-240). Don't ask me, ask Bethesda. Likewise, converting a gun from .308 to 5.56 would be -0.345. (240 X 0.655 = 157 rounded down) get it?
As for armor, there is no set formula, I did what felt good... combat armor is about 6.5 times as strong as in Vanilla, other armors might be 3 times as strong. Honestly, download an armor mod, then make it what you think is fair. editing weapons + weapon mods might take 3-5 minutes, armor mods should take maybe 1 minute. It isn't much work at all. Watch a guide on Fo4Edit or Bethesda's editor, trust me it's easy.
2.1 Update:
1) Fixed a lot of the "Lookup Failed" issues... not all of them, but most of them. Thanks to reltilie for help there.
2) Fixed mistakes such as the .38 receiver conversion on the 10mm pistol. Fixed various other mods on weapons.
3) Adjusted some weapons, for example made the .308 hunting rifle stronger. I try to make things more realistic, but in the interest of game play the bolt action .308 does more damage than auto and semi auto .308 weapons. Increased bash damage for all weapons. You can do massive damage with the bash perks, bayonet mods and a head shot bash. Fixed Tesla Rifle to be more useful, and fixed the mods on it. Adjusted Gauss Rifle and Missile Launcher to do more damage to robots. Fixed the Combat Shotgun auto mods to work in VATS... your welcome for doing you jobs for you Bethesda, for free no less. Various small adjustments to weapon balance.
4) Various small tweaks to NPC health and armor. Nothing huge.
5) Added more weapon patches.
6) Added patches for Fusion City, Outcasts and Remnants, and Project Valkyrie.
In my opinion, this mod gives the best combat experience for Fallout 4. However, it has a strong downside: Weapon and armor mods are not compatible, as they would have worthless values in this mod. They work IF you edit them to match this mod (for example, 5.56 should be 157ish damage and edit all the mods to not increase weapon damage) with that said, I will be uploading patches I made for some of the popular Nexus weapons to work with this mod. You can edit other weapons, it is honestly very easy and should take you 5 minutes or less per weapon/armor. For armor, simply multiply the value by roughly 4-7 times its current value to make it useful. Weapon replacer mods will not work with this mod unless you edit their values accordingly.
The pictures are ancient, ignore them, values are way off from the current version. One day when I play Fallout 4 again I'll update them. Playing NV atm, just a better game in my opinion. Speaking of, I made a mod for NEw Vegas to buff robots: https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/69077?tab=description If you like my work here you should enjoy that. I have a much larger mod I'm working on for New Vegas I will post after I have finished my play through test.
Then this mod might be for you.
IMPORTANT: This mod is intended for NORMAL difficulty OR SURVIVAL with a mod to make damage 1:1. You WILL get wrecked on hard or survival under normal conditions due to the increased difficulty.
I left the old versions up for people who like them, to get the proper mod experience use 2.0-2.1 versions of all the mods. You will not get a proper experience if you do not use the perk mod, or player health mod, for example.
This mod should be as close to last in the load order as possible to work right. Only my weapon replacer patches should come after it, nothing else. It has no adverse effects on mods like companion mods that don't mess with other NPCs weapon/armor/health/damage values. Quest mods work "well enough" but any weapons or armor they add will be worthless, and some NPCs may have vanilla over inflated health. It isn't game destroying, it just means you need to do 10 minutes of editing work on the mod yourself or deal with these issues.
The purpose of this mod is to fix the numerous problems I found with Fallout 4, such as enemies having too much or too little health (the first raider you meet has 30 health and the toughest gunner has 1300 health in the retail game) weapons scaling too much with mods and perks, certain enemies being way too weak, (Robots and Vertibirds) and to overall make the game harder. In addition, this mod is for people who want tough, exciting combat but do not like scrounging for ammo or struggling to heal after a fight, I would say that is the main difference between this mod and Horizon. While Horizon is a very good mod, I personally just want fun combat without having to worry about how I am going to heal, or that I can't use my minigun because there is no ammo for it. While there is some realism to that aspect, we have to consider that you are 1 person vs 1000's of enemies... so I think we can ignore that fact that ammo and healing is easier to find than it might otherwise be 210 years after the world was destroyed.
People have also inquired as to how this is different than Better Locational Damage. Both mods are old, closing in on 5 years, and developed over time. I think it's fair to say the BLD author has done a lot more updates and evolved his mod. That said, from the description, a 10mm headshot just kills any human, instantly, no matter what. That IMO, is "too realistic" and just makes things a bit easy if you use VATS or are a good shot. If you have played classic Counter Strike (like 1999 version) This mod is like that... no armor and a strong gun = 1 shot to the head (usually), good armor and a tough human might be 2-3 shots. A .308 has a better 1 headshot chance than a 5.56.
Also, this mod does a ton of other things, like rebalance enemies. Robots are the top tier enemies they should be (A Sentry Bot is made of hardened steel and has Miniguns... it will chew Deathclaws to pieces) Vertibirds got a needed buff, Animals had stat adjustments to be faster, Supermutants got a buff they needed to be actually a little bit super, etc. This mod also rebalances weapons, pretty much all weapons. "Embedded weapons" (weapons you can't pick up, like robot lasers or turret guns) included. Weapon mods don't increase weapon damage as much... this made ZERO sense. Another thing it does that was a huge pet peeve of mine is change outfits so NPCs usually wear a more reasonable suit. Seriously, who goes "ok I'm going to wear armor on my left arm and left leg... but nowhere else. Yeah, this is good" What? Even if you were lacking other pieces, why would you bother? Why leave your torso and head unprotected AND unbalance yourself? NPCs dress less like total clowns in this mod, vs Vanilla. I can't be the only one why was bothered by this.
Anyway, I know BLD is a great mod, this mod is just the same basic idea with a different vision. It's up to you to try both and pick. Read the descriptions carefully, play test both (just spawn in enemies with console commands, see what you like better) Make you choice, simple as that. As stated below, the biggest negitive to this mod is that it so greatly changes the stats of weapons, weapon mods, enemy health, armor etc that if you want to use weapon/armor/npc mods you will need to edit the damage/armor/health values yourself... which is very easy but can be time consuming. I mention this more than once in this description so people understand this.
Here is a list of just some of the changes this mod makes:
- Human health has been normalized. Humans will now have between 250 and 550 health, player included. In the base game human health ranged from 30-1300 which was idiotic. Human enemies are now more dangerous based on their weapons, armor, and combat skills (chance to hit) not just over inflated health.
- Certain enemies are faster than others, for example Deathclaws, Dogs, and Assaultrons are much faster now... you can't out run them. Fight to the death or don't get seen in the first place.
- Robots have have armor.. gunpowder based weapons are highly ineffective against them. Pulse grenades now only damage robotic enemies and do huge damage to them. Pulse stuns humans but does no damage.
- Weapons are hugely adjusted. They start off doing MUCH more damage, but mods do not increase gunpowder based gun damage, rather their handling, rate of fire, and other aspects. Now you can pick up a gun and its somewhat useful. Lasers almost no recoil, Plasma does enormous damage but quickly loses damage over range. Missiles are HEAT (High Explosive Anti Tank) Thus do enormous damage to single targets with high armor penetration but very little AoE damage.
- Examples of weapon damage and adjustments would be 5.56 doing 157 damage and .45 doing 180. However, 5.56 keeps is energy for a longer distance and will still be powerful at range, where .45 steadily loses damage over range. I tried to strike a balance between realism and game play when setting damage values. 5mm has 30-40% armor penetration based on the gun. Lower damage than 5.56 but usually higher rate of fire and armor penetration.
Assault Rifle is now .308 with a lower rate of fire, combat rifle is 5.56, Sub Machine Gun (Tommy Gun) now has some ammo conversions.
- Body part damage is adjusted. In Vanilla head shots were 200% damage and every other part was 100%. In this mod, head is 325%, torso is 150%, Arms are 60% and legs are 80% for humans. Aim for heads and torsos for quick take downs. However, Robots take greatly reduced damage to the torso as that's where the thickest armor is... aim elsewhere. Different enemies have different vulnerabilities. On average, a human in no armor will die from 2 5.56 shots to the torso, however armor will have a large impact on this. Light armor maybe take 3 shots to die, heavy combat armor might take 8.
- The game is HUGELY more dangerous overall. You will need to run away, lay traps, use grenades, call in arty strikes or use NPCs to help you. You must use cover, you will die if you play the game like Vanilla.
- Perks are greatly adjusted. Toughness for example, is good now. ranged weapon perks no longer increase damage of the weapons, as this made no sense.
- Changed enemy equipment. I have seen a lot of people complain that there should be more low level melee raiders, well now there are. I also changed outfits, no longer will you see gunners with right leg armor and left arm but nothing else... that made no sense what so ever. Enemies such as Gunners and High level raiders now wear a full set.
- Combat against human enemies will be faster and more deadly overall. A Deathclaw will take much more firepower to kill than a few Gunners, but the Gunners may be more dangerous overall, as they have ranged weapons. It will depend on your build, tactics and weapon load out.
- Power armor is buffed, you take much less damage in it vs the Vanilla game, but enemies are also more deadly. Use Power Armor for tough situations or if you just want things a bit easier... however you will still die if you rush out into the open against multiple powerful enemies.
- I recommend Several mods to use with this: 1) I did not touch Minutemen (other than human health and armor/weapon values which of course effect them) because I use "We are the Minutemen" https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6443/ 2) Arbitration is a good companion to this mod, but make sure Difficulty and Realism is lower (meaning loaded AFTER) in the load order. https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/2037/ 3) Fusion City, Outcasts and Remnants, and Project Valkyrie work fine with the patches provided. 4) Any companion mod works fine.
WEAPON/ARMOR GUIDE: Get any weapon mod you want, but if there isn't a patch here you MUST edit them to work properly with this mod. 5.56 does 157, .308 auto is 240, .308 bolt action is 300, .44 is 300 (but lower range and loses energy faster than rifle rounds), .45 is 180, .38 is 110-120 (based on weapon quality... pipe guns are bad, mmmkay) lasers are a base of 150 but have multiple damage mods. Make it whatever you want... it's your game but those are some guides. Receivers do not increase damage of gunpowder weapons unless it's an ammo conversion (so 5.56 to .308 would be a multiplier of 0.53 in the editor... yes ZERO.53, not 1.53. 1.53 would give you 397 instead of 240 (157-240). Don't ask me, ask Bethesda. Likewise, converting a gun from .308 to 5.56 would be -0.345. (240 X 0.655 = 157 rounded down) get it?
As for armor, there is no set formula, I did what felt good... combat armor is about 6.5 times as strong as in Vanilla, other armors might be 3 times as strong. Honestly, download an armor mod, then make it what you think is fair. editing weapons + weapon mods might take 3-5 minutes, armor mods should take maybe 1 minute. It isn't much work at all. Watch a guide on Fo4Edit or Bethesda's editor, trust me it's easy.
2.1 Update:
1) Fixed a lot of the "Lookup Failed" issues... not all of them, but most of them. Thanks to reltilie for help there.
2) Fixed mistakes such as the .38 receiver conversion on the 10mm pistol. Fixed various other mods on weapons.
3) Adjusted some weapons, for example made the .308 hunting rifle stronger. I try to make things more realistic, but in the interest of game play the bolt action .308 does more damage than auto and semi auto .308 weapons. Increased bash damage for all weapons. You can do massive damage with the bash perks, bayonet mods and a head shot bash. Fixed Tesla Rifle to be more useful, and fixed the mods on it. Adjusted Gauss Rifle and Missile Launcher to do more damage to robots. Fixed the Combat Shotgun auto mods to work in VATS... your welcome for doing you jobs for you Bethesda, for free no less. Various small adjustments to weapon balance.
4) Various small tweaks to NPC health and armor. Nothing huge.
5) Added more weapon patches.
6) Added patches for Fusion City, Outcasts and Remnants, and Project Valkyrie.
In my opinion, this mod gives the best combat experience for Fallout 4. However, it has a strong downside: Weapon and armor mods are not compatible, as they would have worthless values in this mod. They work IF you edit them to match this mod (for example, 5.56 should be 157ish damage and edit all the mods to not increase weapon damage) with that said, I will be uploading patches I made for some of the popular Nexus weapons to work with this mod. You can edit other weapons, it is honestly very easy and should take you 5 minutes or less per weapon/armor. For armor, simply multiply the value by roughly 4-7 times its current value to make it useful. Weapon replacer mods will not work with this mod unless you edit their values accordingly.
The pictures are ancient, ignore them, values are way off from the current version. One day when I play Fallout 4 again I'll update them. Playing NV atm, just a better game in my opinion. Speaking of, I made a mod for NEw Vegas to buff robots: https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/69077?tab=description If you like my work here you should enjoy that. I have a much larger mod I'm working on for New Vegas I will post after I have finished my play through test.