This is what I'm interested in, a proper steam punk power armor. Sadly, none of these feels like fallout to me. The closest one is the last one on the bottom right.
I think 1, 4, and 5 fit the proportions of Fallout 4's power armor the best, though 1 might be a little skinny around the torso.
As another commenter said, this could be really neat for the Railroad. I always thought it silly to use PA as an agent, given the Railroad's usual emphasis on subterfuge and subtlety, but having an actual Railroad-themed PA for the Heavies to make use of might help make that feel a bit better in my mind.
As for the whole debate on AI-generated art, you're free to do whatever the hell you want, Newermind -- you've already proven that you're a talented artist when it comes to Fallout power armor, and I don't think anyone would doubt that. Using it to give you a starting point is pretty similar to artists taking ideas and motifs from other artists. That being said, I can certainly understand the ethics question surrounding AI-generated art.
I genuinely don't understand why people would be upset over using AI as INSPIRATION. Its a starting point. There comes a time in many artists lives where they have a hard time with making some new and fresh or just anything at all. So they usually have to go and find inspiration to reinvigorate their imagination. This is no different. Its simply a tool to be used.
I can understand using AI "art" and then trying to pass it off as your own work/charging people for it but isn't the case here. They are simply using it for inspiration. And for those that would say "They could just go to peoples media pages and find inspiration there". Sure, they could spend hours or even days looking for inspiration, like I'm sure they haven't been scouring media pages for years to create new works. But why waste all that time when you could simply use a tool to randomly generate images and be able to actively toon things to your liking. I just don't get it.
As someone who *just* posted an AI pic, I completely agree. Calling A.I. art "lazy" is a ridiculous argument for this forum. %99.99 of the pictures on here consist of someone using a mod or console commands to position the game camera and take a screenshot. How much "work" goes into that? Unless you're a mod author, using this platform to highlight your own work, the majority of people posting screenshots here are just making cool pictures of something somebody else did - and there's nothing wrong with that.
Because, regardless of intent on the us of the ai generated images, those images are still trained off of art by real people, and often unethically since a large amount of art fed into ai generators are behind paywalls, which breaches several laws about private IP's and the like. Think of it as you and your friends each make a baking soda volcano with different means, someone comes along, rips chunks off of each and them makes an amalgamation of a baking soda volcano, and the tries to pass it on as it's own original thing better than what they took from (not necessarily their idea).
It's one of those things where trying to explain it to a non-artist is difficult, because you have to be an artist to understand how offensive and predatory the process of utilizing ai generated images is to artists. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with effort put into it, or how it's supposedly 'gatekeeping' art as a whole, it's the principle in which people utilizing ai generated images (or at the very least those who develop the programs) are willing to breach laws and personal ip's in scummy ways without taking into account those they're stealing the art from.
The use of ai as a means of aiding progression in real art, or as a way of stockpiling ideas isn't something most are against, anything that lets you learn or helps improve your skills is always smiled upon. But because of the current state of the use of ai in every facet is so predatory, corrupt and unethical in how people are using it to make profits, or to bypass any real effort or passion behind something to be part of a crowd they're not willing to put the time and effort of being in, as well as companies finding an excuse to not have to pay actual artists and such, that's where we're getting upset.
With good reason. After all the art used is a unique creation, born from the imagination, time and effort of the artist. AI is not creating, it's compositing. Artists, like mod authors and other creators, should be rewarded for their creativity, time and effort.
Helmet: I like 7 for it's general shape and mouth grill.
Pauldrons: 6 for the shape and pronounced rivets. I like 5 too.
Arms: 1 for the shape and details
Chest: I like the bulkiness and general shape of 1 but I also like 2 for the abdominal area. I looks more handcrafted like 15th century armor. The leather belts are nice details too.
Legs: 5 for the general shape, but 6 is ok too. Really they all look very similar.
Obviously the color scheme of 7 and 1, brass and bronze highlights maybe a wrought iron frame.
If you're going the steampunk route, you could make it the railroad's answer to power armor. Maybe, look at trains for some more inspiration, also if it belched steam when you walked and went "whoo whoo" when you jumped, that would be legendary.
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As another commenter said, this could be really neat for the Railroad. I always thought it silly to use PA as an agent, given the Railroad's usual emphasis on subterfuge and subtlety, but having an actual Railroad-themed PA for the Heavies to make use of might help make that feel a bit better in my mind.
As for the whole debate on AI-generated art, you're free to do whatever the hell you want, Newermind -- you've already proven that you're a talented artist when it comes to Fallout power armor, and I don't think anyone would doubt that. Using it to give you a starting point is pretty similar to artists taking ideas and motifs from other artists. That being said, I can certainly understand the ethics question surrounding AI-generated art.
Thanks for all you do, Newermind :)
I can understand using AI "art" and then trying to pass it off as your own work/charging people for it but isn't the case here. They are simply using it for inspiration. And for those that would say "They could just go to peoples media pages and find inspiration there". Sure, they could spend hours or even days looking for inspiration, like I'm sure they haven't been scouring media pages for years to create new works. But why waste all that time when you could simply use a tool to randomly generate images and be able to actively toon things to your liking. I just don't get it.
It's one of those things where trying to explain it to a non-artist is difficult, because you have to be an artist to understand how offensive and predatory the process of utilizing ai generated images is to artists. At the end of the day it has nothing to do with effort put into it, or how it's supposedly 'gatekeeping' art as a whole, it's the principle in which people utilizing ai generated images (or at the very least those who develop the programs) are willing to breach laws and personal ip's in scummy ways without taking into account those they're stealing the art from.
The use of ai as a means of aiding progression in real art, or as a way of stockpiling ideas isn't something most are against, anything that lets you learn or helps improve your skills is always smiled upon. But because of the current state of the use of ai in every facet is so predatory, corrupt and unethical in how people are using it to make profits, or to bypass any real effort or passion behind something to be part of a crowd they're not willing to put the time and effort of being in, as well as companies finding an excuse to not have to pay actual artists and such, that's where we're getting upset.
Pauldrons: 6 for the shape and pronounced rivets. I like 5 too.
Arms: 1 for the shape and details
Chest: I like the bulkiness and general shape of 1 but I also like 2 for the abdominal area. I looks more handcrafted like 15th century armor. The leather belts are nice details too.
Legs: 5 for the general shape, but 6 is ok too. Really they all look very similar.
Obviously the color scheme of 7 and 1, brass and bronze highlights maybe a wrought iron frame.
If you're going the steampunk route, you could make it the railroad's answer to power armor. Maybe, look at trains for some more inspiration, also if it belched steam when you walked and went "whoo whoo" when you jumped, that would be legendary.