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The most laughable concept in entire FNV lore would be Yes-Man being a rogue with its own will.

But that's how a lot of players think. All of them would choose Wild Card route. Beside the resounding motto No God, No Master, a major attraction is that they can be the top hat, the man above all.

But why would Yes Man being a sentient intelligence standing alone? That would mean you have an active AI running around Mojave... in a world destroyed by AI launching nukes to initiate the hour of Apocalypse (F2 lore).

Believe me, as a logical thinking creature, after that hour, every sentient being in the world would be leery of sentient AI. Bois played too wild. Even the abominations, like Mr House, Big MT's Scientists etc... would be leery of them. Note that any place with high computer dont have any AI. Even Enclave, being crazy boys that they are, are very leery of President Eden and turn on it at a drop of a hat. Eden frankly is imprisoned in Raven Rock and can not run around in a mobile body, unlike Yes Man.

Dont forget: Mr House has his eyes on every part of Mojave that his army of robots can wander. It's hard to imagine he can allow a sentient AI running around in the Strip without knowing. Ai exist mostly on Net, and Mr House control Strip network pretty tight. Even try a small program on it can be detected, let alone heavy step of an AI.

So the obvious answer is: Yes Man is not a standingalone sentient rogue robot. In which case, there's a shadow menace behind its friendly face. That's all.

And that mean Wild Card route just have Courier being marionette on front stage for the world to see, while the team hid behind.

So there!

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  1. Colebowlin68
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    That's... not how the world ended in Fallout lol. It changes depending on the game and whatever new ideas they come up with, but the point is nobody knows who fired the first shot and it doesn't really matter because *everyone* participated and it's *everyone's* fault for the circumstances that led to it. Boiling it down to 'le rogue AI' or 'crazy government conspiracies' defeats the entire point that the series was trying to make, that everyone contributed to the near-extinction of humanity and the near-end of life on Earth itself. Just like how everyone contributes to rebuilding the world afterwards. 

    As far as Yes Man going rogue is concerned... why is this issue not also raised with Victor, or Jane and Marylin? Or like, any other robot in Fallout? And that's because they're just not that advanced, except for truly intelligent AI like ZAXs, but those are rare (and not that intelligent either if Fallout 3 is anything to go off of). All it takes is an EMP to scramble the average robot's brains and make it hostile to anybody and anything. Yes Man is little more than a convenience for somebody else to control the Securitron army, that's pretty much it. If the writers had any intention of making Yes Man turn against you, they'd have made it more apparent. All that line about being "more assertive" means is that he'll only follow the Courier's commands and no one else's. Again, there's no reason the writers would take *everything* they were building towards in the independent ending and throw that away for a generic rogue AI story. And that's not even getting into how it's implied Yes Man isn't even as intelligent as the other Securitrons like Victor or Jane just from the way he talks, or how it's obvious Benny rushed his creation since his personality and intelligence wouldn't be what mattered to his plans. And that Emily and the Followers wouldn't have much access to the kinds of resources that would help in that situation. And Yes Man was stated to have been created by Benny and Emily specifically, they were the only two that ever knew of his existence until you discovered him. So... no weird secret organization from hundreds of miles away is controlling him.   

    All in all, this is gonna be a big 'no' from me dawg. This completely misinterprets what New Vegas' story and Fallout in general was about.
    1. laclongquan
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      The war happened normally, or at least as normal as mininuke and powered Giant Robot being fielded as it can be. it is the AI launching ICBMs with meganukes and lock people out of consoles (to stop them) that make the Apocalypse completed. That's how the dialog with super AI ACE in SF bos bunker go https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fsface.msg

      As for Yes Man, you dont understand the issue. The difference (on surface) between Yes Man route and Victor/Mr House route is that in latter case, Courier is just a righthand man, a vice chief, an subordinate to Mr House. and the attraction of yes Man - Wild Card route is that you break all current  power balance by killing certain characters, reduce strength of certain factions and raise other factions to counteract them, so that finally you being the sole figure the top of Mojave pyramid of power. if you dont want to be the top why would you choose Yes man?

      But when we suspect Yes Man is not a rogue AI, but very well possibly just a robot under control from a team somewhere, that mean we doing all that under Yes Man's counsel, thus being marionetted for other puppet master. That is the issue: the threat of beinga  dumbass being controlled by others. it goes against the reason you choose Wild Card route.
  2. Tesvixen
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    Basing any kind of argument in these games on logic, on what makes sense/is realistic, is kind of pointless because they are full of things that aren't logical, don't make sense and aren't realistic.

    Everyone's going to have their own take on the lore, even the 'clearly canon' stuff.