Oblivion
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The things I have done to make Oblivion do what I tell it to have bordered on Lovecraftian.

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  1. LoginToDownload
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    Ah, good call. Again, thank you.
  2. raymond_dnd
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    Ah -- but could still be floating point problem..

    If I write 0.25
    then I know the computer can represent this exactly

    But, it can not store 0.1 exactly!

    ((how does it store 0.1 ???))

    ---

    Have just written a small C program:

    #include <stdio.h>

    int main(int argc, char** argv) {

    float a = 0.1;

    if (a == 0.1) {
    printf("same
    ");
    } else {
    printf("differ
    ");
    }

    return 0;
    }

    When I run this it prints 'differ' !!

    .. your result may vary ...

    ((if it differs, change 0.1 to 0.25 in both places
    .. this should be the same
    ))

    ((hmmn - ok, if I change float to double then 0.1 is same))

    ---
  3. LoginToDownload
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    Raymond: Thanks for the answer, but (for reasons not obvious in that image) it's not a decimal/division problem. I set the variable it was checking to exactly 0.9867 a bit earlier (Technically, later. This whole mod was an experiment in time travel).

    In the end, I solved it by adding 0.0133 to the variable and checking if it equaled 1. It went through.
  4. raymond_dnd
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    Ah - fun with floats.

    In non-language type code

    number = 1.0/3.0; ie (1/3)

    print "%0.4f" number ==> 0.3333
    print "%0.5f" number ==> 0.33333

    if (number == 0.3333) {
    print "hi"
    }
    ... not going to do anything,
    as we know it's not 'really' 0.3333


    if (number == 1.0/3.0) {
    print "yes"
    } else {
    print "no"
    }

    ... don't know the result!
    number is stored in a variable (memory);
    1.0/3.0 will be stored in registers, which could
    be a different size to memory
    - that is, a different number of bits
    .. which are unlikely to be the same


    Sorry for the dull message - but float equality is dangerous ground.

    ((why is 1.0/4.0 likely to behave well
    but 1.0/10.0not?
    ))
  5. zprospero
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    I have given this image my endorsement.

    As a computer programmer I'll tell you that this is not limited to the construction set.

    Cthulu? No. Ia Yog-Sothoth!

    Spoiler:  
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  6. Eiries
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    I have given this image my enď̸͍̻̤̠̞̹͖̫̮̮̠͖̙͎̲̣̯̓́ͫ̀͐̑ͥ̊̀ͣ̄ͥͪ̽̀̀͡ͅorsemen͕͎͙͐̒̓̓ͫt̨͔̩͍̮̙͓̣̙ͯ̇̾͌̍̄͊̈̓͜͞ͅ.

    Haha! That's pretty intense! I don't think you have to w̏̿̂ͬ͏o̧͈͐ͥͮr̮͌rͪ̆̆̏y̪͍̹̽ͦ͐̇̋̔ though...

    I mean, if it started to tä̸̸̲͇̜̞͉̤͖͈͖̭̦̘̻̘͎͙͎̯̜͋̎̐ͯ͑̓̃̃͗͑̏̐͛ͦ͠͡ke over, I'm sure you'd̹͓̗͕͇͓͓ͩͩͪ̉͌ͬ̍ ̩͉̯̺̫̪͖̟̑̔͋̅ṡ̭̿ͧͥ̇̒͑ͨȅ̻͙͙̪̽̾͗̋̇̎̃͗e͕̻̠̬̠̻ͧͫͣ̄ͧͪ̔ͅ signs...

    If you d͓̲̞̯̯̝̹̪̭̩͇̹̯̬͇͎ͨ̔̒̈ͦ̓̍̾̂̾̆̀̾ͭ̓ͤ̚͜͢ͅǫ̴͍̩͍̘͓̭̦̣̥̘̮̳̯̫̭̙͙̓͂͗̆̉ͭͨ̊̂̇͝ͅ, then you'd better watch out cuz i̷̧̺̞̲̲̟̱͛̎̊̿́̍͟ṱ̴̫̗̪͙͉̩̘ͥ̈͋͝'̘͎͕̠̪̭͌͛̊̓ͬ̏͊̆͢͝s̲̣̗̪͈̐̎̀͟ c̈̋̈͒͊̂̒̑̎ͪͧͯͪͩ̚͘͠҉̧̞͖̠̗̫̗̦̖͇o̵̶̡̤̖͍̯̟̹̙̼͍̬ͧ̔̋͗ͤ̅͗ͦ́̀̚͢ͅm̴̛̑ͪ̈́̎̄̋̕҉̷̖̞̞̝̟̭̫̞͕̞̤̰̟̦̘ͅi̥̗̜̯̼̠͔͕͎͎̟̳̘̺̺͆̓ͭ̍̓̀̕͜͞͡n̛̛͖̝̰̳̻̱͖̙̣̟̈̓̔̍̿͑̄ͭ̏͂̊ͥ͆̅ͭ̂͑̔g̛̦͖͓͚̯͔̠͍̻̦͈ͭͨ̆͒̉ͫ̐̉ͪ͊͂͐̐͟͢͠ ̴̼̭̦̱̺̰̩̯̙͔̪ͭ̇̉ͨ̈̇̏̃ͮ̈́͊̕͞f̴̴̢̭̩̭̪͍̰͚͖͓̟̠̯͗̀̽̉ô̸̧̳̩͍͕͔͎͚̯̦̲̠ͪ̉ͤ̿ͦ͋̓̾ͭ͊̐̚̕͢r̶͔̹̻̪̜̭̝̪̯̩̻͖̰̦̼̖͊̂̎͂̈́̀̍̀́͡ ̛͚͎̥̼͙͚̭͕̙̃̾͒ͨͤͨ̏͌ͬ̎ͮ̽̃̽̀͘͠y̸͈͎͙̯͚͍̞͓̤̘͈̾ͮ̊͋̓ͤ̿́͢o̧̨̫̖̦̖͈̣̣͒ͯͥͥͨͨ͊͛͜ͅu̡̗̺͇̘̲͉͗̂͑̄͂͊͋͐̈̓ͮ̎͛̿̇̀ͣ̚͟͠͝.̵̡̛̪̥̳̫̠͙̒ͧ̀ͣ̉̈́̍ͭͮͤ̆̋ͮ̔̅̏ ̸̨̠͉͕̫͉̯̙̦̱̱̳͕̼͉̙̣ͥͫͯͫ͒̀ͦ̌͒̑ͮ͊ͪ̀ͣ̊̚̚͘:̽͛͂̈́̉͒̅̀̅̓͋ͣ̚͠҉͏̩̟̗̫̩̗͔̳̹͖̤̥̝̯͈ͅͅ)̧̆̽̿͌ͫ̊̍͆ͬ̓̏̈̎͋̑͊̇̉̿͏̼̟͍̖͠)̴̸̮͖̮̳͍̥̭͚͚̳̗̠̮̳̬͕͚̺ͣͫ̆ͤ̂ͣ̄̏̒͢͡͝)̘̫͎̘̻̮̃ͬͥ̐̏̓ͤ͛̈́̅̚͝͡)̵̛̳̖͈̭̾̀͋ͧ̐̋̅̇͘)̢̰̜̟̤̞̙̹̙̲̃̿̍ͣ̇͊̆̑̓̋̆)̵̥͕̼̮̙͚͙̪͈̜̦̱̭͕̠̣̟͙̓̑̆̈́̇̄ͦͣ̓ͪͥ̅́͒́͟
  7. rhaynne
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    I have given this image my endorsement.

    Your trials are not suprising considering that the design and development teams would gather in a swap and chant

    Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

    when the stars were right...