I don't recomment this mod for people who have not played the original oblivion like me. I ended up uninstalling mainly because of the gameplay balancing and loot changes. I am only using Ascension Lite - Creatures.esp now
I guess it really depends what kind of an experience the player really wants. If someone wants an immersive, well crafted experience with sensible design choices, I think this, with the other mods mentioned in the description should be the way to go for new and old players.
On the other hand if somebody wants, totally broken economy due to abundant high level loot everywhere you go, every low life low skill bandit to wear top of the level gear, no incentive to get money since you will be swimming in it, totally busted level scaling where no sense of progression can be felt. Then yeah I agree, vanilla oblivion definitely should be the way to go.
Do i need vortex or any other mod manager for this to work? or is it working by just putting it in the right folder, editing the textfile and open the game?
The game will only fail to load if you are missing a master file. I guarantee that you are just trying to use a patch intended for the main file with the Lite version, which doesn’t require any patches.
For those coming to the comments to see what the Lite loot changes are like, I spent 2-3 hours grinding Ceyatatar trying to get master level alchemy equipment and nothing dropped. These were roughly 30-60 second runs using the rear hatch that leads into the last area.
Removed the loot plugin and first run I got the master alembic, and then within about 15-20 minutes of more grinding I had gotten the rest of the master level alchemy equipment.
If you don't like aggressively grinding, then I wouldn't recommend the loot plugin.
The level cap plugin so far has been pretty good, no complaints there.
I had exactly same happen, hundreds of reloads and no master equipment, in fact I was getting novice level equipment, I remove rarer loot and get master equipment first try. See my other comment. This is not vanilla drop chance for this dungeon, and if it's not intentional then something is bugged.
Has anyone found any Master Alchemy equipment while using this mod? It seems to have removed alchemy equipment from the drop lists in general and I'm wondering where I can get my hands on the master set. I'd like to find it properly in-game if I can rather than temporarily removing the loot plugin just to grind Ceyatatar
It doesn’t remove alchemy drops. The items are just drawn from all levels of the leveled list rather than the top 8, so the chance of gold equipment is slightly less.
It's not slightly less. It's completely gone. I'm not saying you did this on purpose but something doesn't work right. I just checked and it was exactly the same as everyone else is saying: not a single piece of master equipment, in fact I was dropping novice alchemy equipment at Ceyatatar, several hours of reloads. I'm level 20. Curiously enough, when I was lower level (around 15, before I should be getting any master alchemy equipment) I got master level equipment from Ceyatatar, but after I reached a higher level it got replaced with novice and apprentice level equipment. I removed rarer loot plugin and I got a piece of master equipment at Ceyatatar on first attempt. If it's not intended then clearly this is a bug. Maybe not changing the alchemy apparatus drop rates is the problem. The presence of other items that would normally not spawn in those chests might be pushing the alchemy equipment out. I'm getting glass weapons and powerful enchanted gear in those chests, but only trash (novice/apprentice) alchemy equipment - and even worse, I can't find master level equipment anywhere in the game anymore, even though I got 2 pieces of it at lower levels.
I have, I found a master retort in an Oblivion gate. Playing on expert with bunch of mods and the the order of mods is the same as in description. Also found another one in Garlas Malatar random boss container.
If I'm only really interested in the Creatures changes of Ascension Lite, could I only load Ascension Lite - Creatures.esp or should they only be used together? Similarly, could I use Ascension Lite - Creatures.esp with Descension or no?
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JumpIf someone wants an immersive, well crafted experience with sensible
design choices, I think this, with the other mods mentioned in the
description should be the way to go for new and old players.
On the other hand if somebody wants, totally broken economy due to abundant
high level loot everywhere you go, every low life low skill bandit to
wear top of the level gear, no incentive to get money since you will be
swimming in it, totally busted level scaling where no sense of
progression can be felt. Then yeah I agree, vanilla oblivion definitely
should be the way to go.
https://imgur.com/a/giSWDU7
that was the issue i was so stupid
Are Claymores meant to be this weak?
Or is everything else really strong?
I have no other mods that alter weapon records.
Removed the loot plugin and first run I got the master alembic, and then within about 15-20 minutes of more grinding I had gotten the rest of the master level alchemy equipment.
If you don't like aggressively grinding, then I wouldn't recommend the loot plugin.
The level cap plugin so far has been pretty good, no complaints there.
But yeah, the vanilla appartus drop rates are very low, as are many vanilla drop rates, as I have mentioned before.
Maybe not changing the alchemy apparatus drop rates is the problem. The presence of other items that would normally not spawn in those chests might be pushing the alchemy equipment out. I'm getting glass weapons and powerful enchanted gear in those chests, but only trash (novice/apprentice) alchemy equipment - and even worse, I can't find master level equipment anywhere in the game anymore, even though I got 2 pieces of it at lower levels.
I literally cannot do anything less than not editing the apparatus lists at all, so I don’t know what it is that you want exactly.
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