UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROBLEM

There are two things, that can cause black face issue (most common problem with NPCs overhauls) - ESP conflict and wrong load order. Both are really easy to fix.

IN THE GUIDE: It can also happen for the lack of FaceGen files, when someone forget to install a core appearance mod (like WICO).



ESP conflicts
In this example, we have two mods: AI Overhaul, which edits NPCs AI packages and Bijin AIO, which change appearance of some NPCs.

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Bijin loaded after AIO in right panel.


There will be no black face bug, because all appearance changes from Bijin are overwriting AIO vanilla look.
But, as you can see, changes from AIO (new package and behaviour) are not forwarded, so you have no advantages from using AIO.
So, in the end, you have NPC with changed appearance, but without new AIO package (vanilla package is reverted).





AIO loaded after Bijin.


It will cause black face bug.
As you can see, AIO reverts appearance changes from Bijin to vanilla state.
But why there is a black face issue and not the vanilla looking face?
It's because Physical Appearance mods contains new FaceGen files, which overwrite original FaceGen.



Load Order conflicts
In this example, we have two mods The Ordinary Women SSE and Pandorable's NPCs.

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Correct Load Order and Priority list (right and left panel) - no black face bug.
NPCs from Ordinary Women are overwriten by Pandorable in both panels. This mean, that Pandorable NPCs succesfuly overwrite FaceGen files (Priority list) and esp conflicts (load order).




The Ordinary Women.esp loaded after Pandorable. It will cause black face bug.
Why? As you can see, in Priority list Pandorable is lower then Ordinary. As you already should know, if something is lower in Priority list, it will overwrite assets from mods that are higher. It means, that FaceGen files from Pandorable overwrite FaceGen from Ordinary (The Ordinary Women.esp is loaded after PAN_NPCs.esp, so game is looking for Ordinary Women files, but it can't find them).







HOW TO FIX A BLACK FACE ISSUE

First and foremost - make sure that your Priority list match the Load Order! It's really important with NPCs overhauls!


Basic conflicts fixing
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Load your plugins in xEdit.


Left-click and select Apply Filter to show Conflicts.


Expand plugin (in this example - Bijin).


Expand Non-Player Character. Left-click on one of the brown-ish names.


To make the work easier, right-click wherever you want and select Hide no conflicts and empty rows. 
Remember to uncheck it after you done!


Right-click in mod name and select "Copy as override into". 
IMPORTANT! Appearance mods should be always "Copy as override into" first. They will serve you as a base. 


Tick .esp flagged as ESL.


Name your patch.


As you can see, appearance records are already in the patch. Now you just need to copy all needed records from mods that are overwriten (in this case, AI Overhaul).


Simply drag and drop conflicting records.


You can drag more than one record. Just drag and drop whole category.


Always click Yes. It will just add master to your patch.


This is how it should look like after fixing. Nice green colour (sometimes yellow). 
Now you can try to fix other conflicts.


Again, "Copy as override into" the appearance mod.


Select your patch.


Drag and drop everything that you need (in this case, ai data and packages from AIO).


When you fix everything that you need, exit the program and save your patch.
Patch will appear in your Overwrite folder.
Zip it and install like a normal mod (or simply create empty mod and move there your patch).

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71 comments

  1. queefbunny
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    I know this mod and immersive npc are not compatible... but could it be by mastering the dark arts of patching?
    1. NaevysKrisvalur
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      Both are AI mods, thus making them incompatible. They do the same thing, just in different ways.
  2. UnusedSadness
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    Thank you so much. This little guide helped me to solve my blackface issue and also encouraged me to finally after all the years of gaming have a deeper look into this powerful tool xEdit.
    Thank you.

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  3. sattyre
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    There are actually 4 things that can cause black face.  race records and mesh corruption.  Mesh corruption is more common with sdd but still isn't a common issue.  Race records however need to come from dawngaurd or Ussep.  If they come from the skyrim.esm they will cause black faces most commonly on vampires but not restricted to them.  They typically cause black face on only certain sex/race/vampire.
    1. queefbunny
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      good to know thanks
  4. eddmario
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    So, when I try and add another character to my patch, it doesn't actually show up on the list underneath said patch.
    The patch DOES get added to the mod list when I click on the character in the original mod I tried to copy them from though.

    Edit: Well, toggling the filter in the list again updates it with the extra characters. Kind of annoying that I have to do that though...
  5. KNIGHTMARE077
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    I have a issue with my replacer where a npc doesn't speak her voice lines. I've checked for conflicts and there are none other than a hair color form id

    I can't figure it out to save me . 
  6. GWeapon
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    Loving the guide and doing my best to follow it. My issue is that black face is applied to vampires and not just one NPC so I'm having trouble identifying the issue. I have Humanoid Vampires installed and at the highest priority of all mods that affect player/npc visuals in hopes it would simply override the issue but it didn't work. when I look at the mod following the instructions above it says it's winning the conflict but i still have blackface.

    Any idea what I might be doing wrong?
  7. Jasonandtina
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    This is really helpful! I have been trying to understand the black face issues for a while now. This helps me know not only how to fix it but also why it happens. Which is how I learn best.I do have a question though. I used easynpc to pick looks from different overhauls. Then I tried to use synthebd to give them all different textures. For some reason some end up with the black face bug after that (ones from organized bandits of Skyrim mainly). I don't know how to check if it is because of the facegen. It doesn't look like what to do in the case of missing facegen files is explained here. Any word on that?
  8. Jasonandtina
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  9. shihpinlo
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    Even with the help of Synthesis, the guide is a good way to checking manually.

    P.S. I use this mod on my console version (PS4/NS). Compare with Immersive Citizens, AI Overhaul can have more followers with me. You are my hero, thank you!
    1. weizhen199
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      Hi, I am a new bee for Synthesis, could you tell me where to find a tutorial on how to use Synthesis making  patch for NPC overhual and AI overhaual ?
  10. Rorkror
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    Thanks for the explanation, helped me a lot and solved the problems finding the mods that where making characters black faces. Great work ;).