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  1. StarkMP
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    Sticky
    Sir, I think we need an update

    upd: solution

    Download 1.6.438 Creation Kit with Steam console:

    *you need installed Creation Kit in Steam

    download_depot 1946180 1946182 5099162879680505807
    download_depot 1946180 1946183 1633303557398589581

    1. Open a command window "Run" by pressing «Win + R» and then enter the command: steam://open/console, and then press Enter.
    Will open console tab on your Steam

    2. On the bottom will have a space for you to enter the code. It will download the files to your "steam/common/content" folder. If you cannot find it, just search on the steam folder: "depot_1946182" and "depot_1946183" after download is done.

    3. Replace your "steamapps/commom/Skyrim Special Edition" files (or wherever your Creation Kit) with the ones in "depot_1946182" and "depot_1946183".

    (after you can downgrade that to 1.5.73.0 with patcher if you need)

    And you can do the same for your Skyrim SE
    Downgrade to 1.6.640:
    download_depot 489830 489831 3660787314279169352
    download_depot 489830 489832 2756691988703496654
    download_depot 489830 489833 5291801952219815735
    1. 0Drew
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      I get "The procedure entry point SteamUser could not be loaded in the dynamic link library ...\steamapps\common\Skyrim Special Edition\CreationKit.exe" when launching even after running the downgrade patcher on the files from those depots

      Edit: Found root cause. It was because I updated Skyrim Special Edition. They updated steam_api64.dll which is the culprit. Either you use the old steam_api64.dll (download_depot 489830 489832 2756691988703496654) and get CreationKit working but break the new SkyrimSE executable, or you use the new steam_api64.dll and keep SkyrimSE working, but break CreationKit. This seems to irreparably break the workaround people were using to get CreationKit fixes working, since we can no longer downgrade CK. People will either need to permanently stay on the prior version of Skyrim Special Edition, forego Creation Kit fixes, or create a duplicate old Skyrim installation for Creation Kit to live in.

      I might try the last one using symlinks to trick it into using new Skyrim files with old steam_api64.dll
    2. LynnethBucherstede
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      For which AE ver is this? Pre yesterday update, @StarkMP ?
    3. StarkMP
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      it works with 1.6.640 but I think it should work with lower AE versions
    4. LynnethBucherstede
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      It does, I've accidentally dled the new update for the ck before realizing what the update cause. 

      Glad, that I've removed the reserved dl of the AE update entirely from my SSD for now. The new update is now postponed till everything is fixed. Another lesson learned.

      I have still a pre yesterday AE/SE steamapi.dll, but I doubt that they will work everywhere.
    5. SassiestAssassin
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      Thanks for posting this <3
    6. jswens84
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      I got this to work if anyone is interested: first I followed the sticky post over here at the Unofficial skyrim downgrade patcher to get my whole game back to 1.6.640 :https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57618/
      ( This will fix the steam_api64.dll issue as it is crashing the entire game too even though the SE patcher has been updated as mentioned in the sticky post over there) 
      then I downgraded my game with the best of both worlds patcher (CC content on 1.5.97 binaries) -(( you don't have to go that far if you don't want to you can stay on 1.6.640)) 
      then i came over here and using the console commands above I downgraded the creation kit back to 1.6.438.0, then I ran the auto patcher to downgrade it further to 1.5.73.0.
      I don't know about y'all but I couldn't care less about this last update just to bring me a Paid Mod Marketplace. Just Stop already Bethesda, I don't really care about the cc content either but hey it was free lol.
      --oh and be sure to delete the resources bsa resources esl and marketplace bsa after you downgrade or loot will throw a bunch of errors
    7. LCountach
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      EDIT: I am running Skyrim VR and CK in separate folders. The method jswens84 posted worked for me too. I was confused at first because I didn't need to downgrade SkyrimVR.

      What I needed to do was follow the procedure posted by StarkMP. "Download 1.6.438 Creation Kit with Steam console" and copy the files over. Then use the auto patcher provided here to go down to 1.5.73.0.

      THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
    8. AlaineValenWoodSkyrim
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      I must emphasize my thanks to you all. BLESS ALL OF YOU. This helped me so much. For the life of me I couldn't figure out how to solve this and went deep diving and found this. Thank you lol, I also completely agree that Bethesda should just stop with this Creation Club stuff. Focus on other games that need working on, makes it harder for us to mod our current games we already have been enjoying smh
    9. SuperSharkman
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      This worked for me. I closed off my game from the update, but forgot to do the same with CK. This solution helped me walk it back and now I can get back to business. Thanks a bunch! 
    10. Sefric
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      Thank you very much, my good sir. This was God sent.
      I'm doing a visual replacer for vilja at the moment. I could stop the skyrim update, but I forgot the creation kit... f*ck.
    11. samuelga24
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      Thanks all of you, it worked.
    12. Zeus8062
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      thank you my good sir i managed to avoid the skyrim update by marking the game acf as read only but i didnt know creation kit was getting updated to and by the time i found it was to late and everytime i launched to it would instanly crash but this fixed everything.
    13. urbans90
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      thanks
    14. Gamyama
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      After follow this post try to downgrade to 1.6.640, but my CK still showing 1.6.1130.0. Any thought I can downgrade to 1.6.640? Tks!
    15. ctma
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      I didn't update the game, but I still got the "entry point SteamInternal_CreateInterface could not be located" error.  Did the creation kit update itself somehow? My CK version reads 1.6.1130.0

      Edit: I was being dumb. 1.6.1130.0 was the new updated version. Following this post and then running downgrade patcher on CK makes it work again.
    16. RobbiTen
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      Love you broski!
    17. RobbiTen
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      THANK YOU!
    18. Maleficus32
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      Thank you! :)
    19. TalesOfStar
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      Thank you!
      (can confirm it works)
    20. Wired1up
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      Thank you StarkMP!!!
    21. mmest
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      Depot download failed : missing license for depots 1946182

      Anyone else get an error on step 2?

      edit: I just had to add the CK to my steam library
    22. Spiegelhirsch
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      I need the CK version for 1.6.353 and can't find it anywhere. does this method work with this version too and if yes what are the commands for it?
    23. StarkMP
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      Spiegelhirsch, you could try. Just follow the guide
    24. victorynap
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      Thank you
    25. MorrisWee13
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      You're a hero
    26. newaccount55
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      my dude thank you :p
    27. GhoulSmasher
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      This saved me, thank you.
      1.5.97 gang lol.
      I was gonna update EVERYTHING to the new version (a year late) till the newest update dropped lol.
    28. Kulharin
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      "Depot download failed : missing license for depots 1946182 and 1946183" is what I get

      Is what I get

      edit: It appears it's because it had not yet been installed through Steam... after I did this, it works.
    29. HelepolisXII
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      Thank you! This post got me back up and running! I had neglected to turn off auto updates on the Steam version of CK.
    30. Fryni9LiveS
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      Thank you, worked like a charm.
    31. cacadekoala
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      U sir are the MVP here, ty and happy holidays!
    32. khyrspam
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      Really Appreciate it, setting up CK for VR and completely missed that CK was updated.
    33. DaiRoboSan
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      You're a life-saver! Thank you!

      I would also like to add, for anyone who wants to keep Steam from force updating the CK again, make sure you locate the file "appmanifest_1946180.acf" in your "steamapps" folder and right click > Properties > and check "Read-only." Should keep Steam from updating the CK in the same way you keep SSE from updating.
    34. aresicristiano
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      Hey folks, I'm new to this and just wanted to make a small change to a spell in the game. I followed the post exactly, and it worked up to a certain point—I can open Creation Kit, but whenever I try to load the Skyrim.esm and Update.esm files, I get this message:
      MASTERFILE: File Skyrim.esm is a higher version than this EXE can load.
      MASTERFILE: File Update.esm is a higher version than this EXE can load.

      Is there any way to fix this? I downgraded my game with the best of both worlds patcher (1.5.97).
    35. soupdragon1234
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      aresicristiano open files in xEdit and change the header version to 1.70 then they'll load (remove any esl flags too or you're likely to run into problems)
    36. arksys17
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      That post saved my life, thanks 
    37. Jukingbox
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      Still not working for me. I'm getting these errors for both console commands
      Depot download failed : missing app info for 1946182
      Depot download failed : missing app info for 1946183
    38. keypuncher
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      soupdragon1234 - TES5Edit is unable to edit the version number on Skyrim.esm.  I can change the header version number to 1.70 on Dawnguard, Update, Hearthfires, and Dragonborn if needed - but edit is not an option on Skyrim.esm.
    39. soupdragon1234
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      The new version of Creation Kit Platform Extended allows loading of 1.71 headers with older CK versions (experimental) or hexedit the 3 header bytes back to 1.70
    40. generalmc3
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      How did you find the specific download depot codes? I'm stuck in limbo and am downgrading from 1.6.1170 to 1.6.1130 for the time being, so I'm looking to downgrade creation kit to 1.6.1130 until I decide to go through the whole update process again.
    41. StarkMP
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      use steamdb
    42. Braintennant
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      it keeps saying "Unable to find master file:Skyrim esm". Im at my whits end. Can anyone help me?
    43. mabezard
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      Thank you! it worked!
    44. DovahkiinJustyce
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      Spiegelhirsch, did downgrading this way end up working for 1.6.353?
    45. DovahkiinJustyce
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      Nevermind it works! I think. All I know is that it opens, haven't tried using it yet.
    46. Jack005
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      Thank you soo much my guy, I had to unistall skyrim, and when I've had everything I needed CK started failing with creation kit.exe CreationKit.exe - Entry Point Not Found and It was driving me crazy, now I can do everything I need with CK, Thank you soo much
    47. TheMachinaGod
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      NOTE TO ALL VR USERS:


      USE THE INSTRUCTIONS PROVIDED BY @StarkMP & @LCountach
    48. Alechilles
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      Thank you for this!
    49. Kaf3l
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      Thank you! You're a life saver. I was really beating my head against this one.
    50. Hermit1990
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      -
    51. MagicD3VIL
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      Cheers mate and thanks
    52. Angerer
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      What a pain in the ass. I hope this works and thank you, good sir.
    53. lupass
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      bro thank you
    54. replying so i have this gem of a comment saved
    55. GameHero87
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      Hi im getting the same error below:

      MASTERFILE: File Skyrim.esm is a higher version than this EXE can load.
      MASTERFILE: File Update.esm is a higher version than this EXE can load.

      I read that this is the solution

      open files in xEdit and change the header version to 1.70 then they'll load (remove any esl flags too or you're likely to run into problems)

      I have no idea how to do this, could someone explain a step by step guide. I dont know what xEdit is or Headers???
    56. AnonBuddha
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      Just wanted to say thank you kind stranger!
    57. moarmodsplx
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      Think this needs an update again? They just patched Creation Kit
  2. jeypie1
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    System.Exception: Can't patch file, it doesn't match the expected format
       at Patcher.ViewModels.MainWindowViewModel.PatchFile(Instruction file, AbsolutePath gamePath) in C:\oss\ussedp\Patcher\ViewModels\MainWindowViewModel.cs:line 136
       at Patcher.ViewModels.MainWindowViewModel.Start() in C:\oss\ussedp\Patcher\ViewModels\MainWindowViewModel.cs:line 110
    Error! Can't patch file, it doesn't match the expected format
    1. RPGryphus
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      I get the same error when trying to downgrade the CreationKit.
    2. scruffy246
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      same edit; i reinstalled the exe and it fixed itself
    3. Baconator96
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      How did any of you fix this? I've uninstalled and reinstalled like 3 times now and nothing changes. It won't even launch direct from Steam anymore.
  3. fallenares
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    Worked for my downgraded SE 1.5.97.0! God bless you bro! And screw Bethesda for the AE crappy updates!!!
  4. borninbronx
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    I need the downgrade to version AE 1.6.353 any idea how I can get it?
    1. withywindlelily
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      1. Download and start up Skyrim, but then quit after it makes you choose your graphics settings (it doesn't matter what you pick because you'll probably change them with Bethini later anyway)
      2. Set Steam to only update Skyrim when you start the game (you'll never start the game from Steam so it will never update)
      3. Go to <steam://nav/console>
      4. Enter <download_depot 489830 489831 7089166303853251347> and wait.  It takes a few minutes and Steam won't show you the progress, but when its done downloading it will tell you where it put the files.
      5. Repeat for <download_depot 489830 489832 2756691988703496654>
      6. Repeat for <download_depot 489830 489833 4570833277049890269>
      7. Open File Explorer and go to where they were downloaded (for me its <C:\Gaming\Steam\steamapps\content\app_489830>, but yours might be in another location)
      8. Open a second instance of File Explorer and go to your Skyrim Game Folder (or you can probably just right click your Skyrim desktop icon and then click <Open File Location> to get there if you're not sure where it is)
      9. Overwrite the files in your Skyrim Game Folder with the files contained inside each of the 3 depot folders you downloaded
      10. You have now downgraded to Skyrim AE 1.6.353
      11. Make sure to get the matching SKSE version - SKSE 2.1.5 <SKSE64_2_01_05> in the Archived Build section at <https://skse.silverlock.org/>
      12. Only ever launch your game via SKSE
    2. StrigonsAce
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      @withywindlelily I don't care about that, I only want to downgrade the creation kit to 1.6.353
  5. tamgame8
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    I still cannot work for me, my game is 1.5.97, and your patch is for 1.5.73, is that the cause?
    Urgent need help
    1. GrimmWulfe
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      +1
    2. DarkWandererAmon
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      Also asking this
  6. DarkWandererAmon
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    My creation kit doesnt load any plugins, I downgraded to pre AE. How do I fix that?
  7. ramelthree
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    Thank you so much for this downgrade patcher, and the sticky instructions.  I also forgot to disable the auto update from Creation Kit, and the update gave me problems.

    On a side note, SSE edit wouldn't work afterwards, something about signatures, but after deleting the old version and installing the latest version, everything was fine.
  8. deletepch
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    Can't seem to get CK to work in 1.5.97 version.
    I downgraded the CK according to the sticky post, successfully loaded CK. But cannot load the SKyrim.esm in it...
    If trying to load other plugins, it shows " unable to find masterfile: Skyrim.esm" and then CTD.
    Appreciate if anyone know about this problem.

    Edit: nvm, was doing something wrong.
    1. Alexanderman95
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      What did you do wrong? Having the same issue. Hope you'll see the message.
    2. deletepch
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      I think I messed up the downgrade process of the game, downloaded the wrong depot file for downgrade.
      You may try to follow this video to downgrade.
  9. LiankimSiane
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    Thank you so much!!  Followed the step in sticky post and miracle happened!! Finally I can take my CK back to normal .
  10. Xaproach
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    which CK version works with Skyrim version 1.6.1130?
  11. Mygar
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    Hi! I'm getting this error: 
    "Patching CreationKit.exe
    Loaded instructions FullPatcher_1.6.438.0_1.5.73.0_2022-04-25
    Running instructions
    System.Exception: Can't patch file, it doesn't match the expected format
       at Patcher.ViewModels.MainWindowViewModel.PatchFile(Instruction file, AbsolutePath gamePath) in C:\oss\ussedp\Patcher\ViewModels\MainWindowViewModel.cs:line 136
       at Patcher.ViewModels.MainWindowViewModel.Start() in C:\oss\ussedp\Patcher\ViewModels\MainWindowViewModel.cs:line 110
    Error! Can't patch file, it doesn't match the expected format"

    Anyone knows why and how do I solve this?
    1. UrekMal
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      I'm having the same issue.
    2. deered11
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      +1
    3. soupdragon1234
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      Check the date it was uploaded last year, tl:dr its not compatible with the latest CK
    4. Chelocok
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      So is there anyway to downgrade creation kit?

      nevermind I just did it with the sticky post