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About this mod
Turns Ebbside into the dark and dangerous place it is supposed to be according to lore. Designed for maximum compatibility. Adds enemies, loot, and flavor NPCs
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Features
Supporting Lore
I tried to base this mod on what we learn through dialogue with various Neon NPCs. We are told that Ebbside is a dangerous place, and that the Disciples have the Strikers penned up in Madame Sauvage's place, and kill people for fun. The Disciples control the east of Ebbside, stopping at Ryujin Tower.
Meanwhile, the Syndicate defends their holdings on the west side of town, protecting the rooftops near the Trade Tower and their hideout near Frankie's Grab and Go.
The only people on the streets of Ebbside are beggars and Aurora addicts, too poor to afford to live anywhere else.
If you choose certain dialogue options during the Crimson Fleet quest line, Myka tells you that she uses the Ebbside Strikers as muscle to deal with unruly patrons. The Strikers now have a small presence inside and just outside of Euphorika.
Load Order
This is mostly load order neutral, but you should make sure to load it above any other mods that affect Neon and contain deleted references. Off the top of my head, the only ones I'm currently aware of are Expanded Cities and Stairs - Neon, but it's still a good idea to use xEdit to check all your mods for deleted references and load them last in your load order.
Compatibility
This mod is designed to be lightweight and compatible. 90% of what it does is adding new NPCs and new loot containers. I have minimized vanilla form edits as much as possible. It does not touch Neon Core, only Ebbside.
Starfield Community Patch - Yes. Even if you don't have it, no issue, I have just forwarded the changes it makes
Rabbit's Real Lights Neon - Yes, load it below this
Neon player homes, both vanilla and modded - Yes
Neon Vertigo - Yes, load it below this
Souls of Cities SFSE - Yes with the patch under optional files. Load the patch after both mods
Expanded Cities- Yes, load it below this
Stairs - Neon - Yes, load it below this
Gameplay Notes
I have tested this on saves both before and after completing the Ebbside Strikers quest. If you install this on a save where you have already completed the quest line by siding with the Strikers, there will be some narrative dissonance, because this adds Disciples to different areas of Ebbside. If you install this on a save where you are in the middle of or haven't started the Strikers quests, the narrative will work fine.
I have hand placed all new hostile NPCs to avoid directly interfering with any vanilla quest NPCs. However, this doesn't mean you won't have to get past bad guys to get to a quest objective.
The Syndicate and Disciples added by this mod will not immediately aggro on you. If you approach, they will warn you to go away and give you a narrow window of opportunity to leave. If you do aggro them by getting too close, or by not leaving the area, they will attack and alert any friends they have nearby.
If you are in [DANGER], enemies can and will follow you through load screens. This is vanilla behavior and not controlled by this mod. It is possible to lure Disciples into Striker territory, and vice versa. If you like chaos, you can even get them to chase you into Neon Core.
If you are feeling cheesy, you can put landmines in front of the doors right after you go through.
All Disciples, Syndicate, and Strikers are leveled to the player, so expect them to put up a decent fight. There are no conflicts with NPC leveling mods because this mod uses custom NPC records.
I was thinking about trying to integrate Sophia Grace into this mod, so you could be neutral to the Disciples if you had her with you, but that would potentially conflict with companion/crew skill mods and mess with vanilla quests, so I haven't changed anything about Sophia. She is down to kill anyone, Strikers or Disciples.
Technical Details
The change to the position of a lamp post inside Madame Sauvage's is intentional, it was interfering with NPC pathfinding.
All added NPCs are not flagged persistent, and are not set to respawn, so bodies should get cleaned up when the cell resets. However, the Disciples that spawn as part of vanilla quests are flagged for respawn by Bethesda, and I have not changed this behavior in the spirit of minimizing vanilla edits.
Credits
Bethesda for CK
jmpz11 for Plugin Bridge which saved my sanity
Elminster and crew for xEdit
JRamos, his tutorials showed me how to get the "warn, but don't attack" behavior working for enemies, as well as sandboxing
510deshawn and Darkfox127 for more CK tutorial vids
- 9 hidden Aurora stashes for you to find throughout Ebbside
- 5 stashes with contraband and legendary loot, guarded by the Syndicate and Disciples
- Adds unnamed Striker gang members to both the inside and outside of Madame Sauvage's place and Euphorika. Now the 4 named Strikers aren't the only ones in the gang. They will defend their turf if any Disciples chase you into the area.
- Dynamic crowds - crowds start out disabled in Ebbside (Neon Core is unaffected), to reflect the dangerous state of Ebbside before the player arrives. If you complete the Ebbside Strikers quest line and side with the Strikers, crowds will return to Ebbside as a result of it becoming a safer place. If you side with the Disciples, crowds will stay disabled. This does apply retroactively to save files if you have already completed the quests.
Supporting Lore
I tried to base this mod on what we learn through dialogue with various Neon NPCs. We are told that Ebbside is a dangerous place, and that the Disciples have the Strikers penned up in Madame Sauvage's place, and kill people for fun. The Disciples control the east of Ebbside, stopping at Ryujin Tower.
Meanwhile, the Syndicate defends their holdings on the west side of town, protecting the rooftops near the Trade Tower and their hideout near Frankie's Grab and Go.
The only people on the streets of Ebbside are beggars and Aurora addicts, too poor to afford to live anywhere else.
If you choose certain dialogue options during the Crimson Fleet quest line, Myka tells you that she uses the Ebbside Strikers as muscle to deal with unruly patrons. The Strikers now have a small presence inside and just outside of Euphorika.
Load Order
This is mostly load order neutral, but you should make sure to load it above any other mods that affect Neon and contain deleted references. Off the top of my head, the only ones I'm currently aware of are Expanded Cities and Stairs - Neon, but it's still a good idea to use xEdit to check all your mods for deleted references and load them last in your load order.
Compatibility
This mod is designed to be lightweight and compatible. 90% of what it does is adding new NPCs and new loot containers. I have minimized vanilla form edits as much as possible. It does not touch Neon Core, only Ebbside.
Starfield Community Patch - Yes. Even if you don't have it, no issue, I have just forwarded the changes it makes
Rabbit's Real Lights Neon - Yes, load it below this
Neon player homes, both vanilla and modded - Yes
Neon Vertigo - Yes, load it below this
Souls of Cities SFSE - Yes with the patch under optional files. Load the patch after both mods
Expanded Cities- Yes, load it below this
Stairs - Neon - Yes, load it below this
Gameplay Notes
I have tested this on saves both before and after completing the Ebbside Strikers quest. If you install this on a save where you have already completed the quest line by siding with the Strikers, there will be some narrative dissonance, because this adds Disciples to different areas of Ebbside. If you install this on a save where you are in the middle of or haven't started the Strikers quests, the narrative will work fine.
I have hand placed all new hostile NPCs to avoid directly interfering with any vanilla quest NPCs. However, this doesn't mean you won't have to get past bad guys to get to a quest objective.
The Syndicate and Disciples added by this mod will not immediately aggro on you. If you approach, they will warn you to go away and give you a narrow window of opportunity to leave. If you do aggro them by getting too close, or by not leaving the area, they will attack and alert any friends they have nearby.
If you are in [DANGER], enemies can and will follow you through load screens. This is vanilla behavior and not controlled by this mod. It is possible to lure Disciples into Striker territory, and vice versa. If you like chaos, you can even get them to chase you into Neon Core.
If you are feeling cheesy, you can put landmines in front of the doors right after you go through.
All Disciples, Syndicate, and Strikers are leveled to the player, so expect them to put up a decent fight. There are no conflicts with NPC leveling mods because this mod uses custom NPC records.
I was thinking about trying to integrate Sophia Grace into this mod, so you could be neutral to the Disciples if you had her with you, but that would potentially conflict with companion/crew skill mods and mess with vanilla quests, so I haven't changed anything about Sophia. She is down to kill anyone, Strikers or Disciples.
Technical Details
The change to the position of a lamp post inside Madame Sauvage's is intentional, it was interfering with NPC pathfinding.
All added NPCs are not flagged persistent, and are not set to respawn, so bodies should get cleaned up when the cell resets. However, the Disciples that spawn as part of vanilla quests are flagged for respawn by Bethesda, and I have not changed this behavior in the spirit of minimizing vanilla edits.
Credits
Bethesda for CK
jmpz11 for Plugin Bridge which saved my sanity
Elminster and crew for xEdit
JRamos, his tutorials showed me how to get the "warn, but don't attack" behavior working for enemies, as well as sandboxing
510deshawn and Darkfox127 for more CK tutorial vids