QUESTIONS REGARDING RS CHILDREN PATCHES Most of the patches in the RS patch compendium will work, since they patch newly added children, most of which are untouched by my mod (excluding those which I have patched already). They just won't be realistic until I add my own edits, if I have any time. The only mods that NEED patches to help with the dark face bug are those without an RS patch at all, or ones which edit global values (like children killability, AI, clothes, etc).
In other words: This mod won't work with any RS patch that makes global changes to children's values (eg stats, killability, etc.) or affects a child covered by this mod (check the description for the full list) without a patch from me. However, patches for added children will work.
Also, if you are using a patch that I have made for this, you won't need the basic RS Children one. They'll cover the same thing.
Sorry if I don't get many patches/fixes done any time soon, I'm in university now and everything is... a lot! Hope everyone is doing well.
Please leave feedback here! Let me know if any of the children are goofy-looking to you, and I'll make changes based on popular suggestions. Also report any issues and I''ll see what I can do! --- Some of the faces come out quite different to how I edited them - I can only assume this is affected by the children's expression/mood settings (sometimes the eyes and brows go real strange), so I have to keep making tweaks to adjust to that. I can keep track of this here! Add suggestions by leaving a comment :)
Children I want to change - Lucia (I can't get a face to look right! Any suggestions?)
Suggestions - Elven children Elven children added here! - Beast children - Snow elf children Snow elf children added here.
Patch requests (should I make an RRSC Patch Compendium? haha) New children(you can still use the basic RS patch for these): Yikes I have zero time, I'm so sorry for those who feel that they can't play with this mod without patches! Maybe one day I'll return.... dunno though lol Complete | 1-5 Likely | 6-9 Maybe | 10-14 Hrrg | 15+ Lord help me
- Bruma 6 children - Falskaar 4 children - Wyrmstooth 2 children - Inconsequential NPCs ..12 children - Interesting NPCs ....14 children - Dragons Keep SSE 8 children - Enhanced Solitude SSE (and other cities) 9 children each - Populated Skyrim ..........26 child...ren... - Fertility Mode 8 children - Immersive Encounters 2 children - DragonStone 5 children - The Great Cities/Towns/Villages - Shor's Stone 1 child - Mixwater Mill 1 child - Moon & Star 1 child - The Forgotten City 1 child - Mihail's Cursed Child Doll 1 child - Cutting Room Floor - Legacy of the Dragonborn - Helgen Reborn - Capital Whiterun Expansion
nee sorry, I haven't started any of the others! I mean, everyone is still listing patch requests but I genuinely don't know when I'll have time to make them haha, uni has been a rollercoaster so far and I don't have my PC there usually. Sadly, these patches take much longer than ideal, especially when it involves modelling and modifying something like 18 children's faces... Would love to expand this mod, and feel free to leave some suggestions in case one day I suddenly have time again :3
I would kill for a version that only uses vanilla hair assets! This is hands down the best child mod for Skyrim but the pretty hair is just something I can't stand. Would you consider making a vanilla hair version? Is it something I could do by myself?
Making a vanilla hair version requires pretty much making it from scratch, since the edits aren't just swapping out faceparts and etc, but exporting face meshes with the hair meshes baked in. I did try to pick the 'least pretty' hairstyles, just to benefit from the higher poly hairstyles offered in KS and others. Sadly, the only way to do a vanilla version would be to remake every single child and I definitely don't have time to do that anymore! If anyone wants to they're free to do so though, I'm happy for people to use the assets - might change the permissions now I'm not active on here anymore. It would involve importing all of the meshes included in my mod into racemenu and changing the hairs to vanilla hairs, and then exporting and changing the directories in all of the meshes. A lot of work, but I'm sure it would be good for the purists out there, I've had a few suggestions of this. Sorry to not be more help!
USSEP """"fixes"""" a bunch of """"bugs"""" that I don't want fixed. The creator is a self centered prick and is full of controversies surrounding him. He doesn't allow modification of his mod and has taken down multiples attempts to revert some of his controversial changes. Installing USSEP is going against the spirit of modding for me. I simply avoid mods that have it as a master, which is truly a shame.
USSEP """"fixes"""" a bunch of """"bugs"""" that I don't want fixed.
Totally agree. Also I remember UP messing more stuff in my game many years ago, this is another reason why I never use these anymore. Well, at least you can still use original RS Children, it's still good on itself. Can't even begin to fathom why UP would be a requirement for such a mod like this. I had to break my own principles for You are exceptional mod for FO4, but that mod is a HUGE overhaul of skills and perks for FO4, so I can completely understand why author didn't want to re-fix all bugs with perks that were already fixed in the FO4 ultimate patch. Can't even imagine which Skyrim bug makes this one unplayable without depending on this cursed UP though. It is indeed, a shame.
For those getting brown face bug: I fixed it by adjusting my load order. I play in VR, but I suppose it's the same with SSE. I struggled with a brown face bug that would occur for either only Frodnar and Dorthe in Riverwood, or it would be for all the children. This came after installing Realistic RS Children. I also have RS Patch Compendium, Prince And The Pauper, PATP Refine fixes and patches, Hearthfire Multiple Adoptions, AI Overhaul, Realistic Elven Children. All of these interact with eachother and most needs patches. After diving further into the matter, I found that LOOT actually never sorts these mods correctly. That is important to know, LOOT always sorts these wrong ALWAYS, so you need to sort them yourself. I've sorted them and locked them, I use MO2. Now it's working perfectly, so I wanted to share my fix with the rest of you in case it could help anyone. I also do NOT use any of those "brown face fix" mods, so if you use that, maybe you'd get a different result, I don't know. Anyway, I've posted a pic of my load order, both the plugins on the right pane in MO2, and the ones on the left pane. Here's the link, hope it helps anyone struggling:
You can go one step further. Sort them, then check with the script Dark Face Issue Reporter if there are any missing parts. THEN merge the whole batch with zEdit. And loot won't interfere anymore. (Check Lexy's Guide for more info on that)
Babette's outfit looks nothing like the one on the screenshots, just a dull black robe, am I missing something As it turns out, the outfit comes from Prince and The Pauper SE !
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Most of the patches in the RS patch compendium will work, since they patch newly added children, most of which are untouched by my mod (excluding those which I have patched already). They just won't be realistic until I add my own edits, if I have any time.
The only mods that NEED patches to help with the dark face bug are those without an RS patch at all, or ones which edit global values (like children killability, AI, clothes, etc).
In other words: This mod won't work with any RS patch that makes global changes to children's values (eg stats, killability, etc.) or affects a child covered by this mod (check the description for the full list) without a patch from me. However, patches for added children will work.
Also, if you are using a patch that I have made for this, you won't need the basic RS Children one. They'll cover the same thing.
Sorry if I don't get many patches/fixes done any time soon, I'm in university now and everything is... a lot! Hope everyone is doing well.
Please leave feedback here!
Let me know if any of the children are goofy-looking to you, and I'll make changes based on popular suggestions.
Also report any issues and I''ll see what I can do!
---
Some of the faces come out quite different to how I edited them - I can only assume this is affected by the children's expression/mood settings (sometimes the eyes and brows go real strange), so I have to keep making tweaks to adjust to that. I can keep track of this here! Add suggestions by leaving a comment :)
Children I want to change
- Lucia (I can't get a face to look right! Any suggestions?)
Suggestions
- Elven childrenElven children added here!- Beast children
- Snow elf childrenSnow elf children added here.Patch requests (should I make an RRSC Patch Compendium? haha)
New children(you can still use the basic RS patch for these):
Yikes I have zero time, I'm so sorry for those who feel that they can't play with this mod without patches! Maybe one day I'll return.... dunno though lol
Complete | 1-5 Likely | 6-9 Maybe | 10-14 Hrrg | 15+ Lord help me
- Bruma 6 children
- Falskaar 4 children
- Wyrmstooth 2 children
- Inconsequential NPCs ..12 children
- Interesting NPCs ....14 children
- Dragons Keep SSE 8 children
- Enhanced Solitude SSE (and other cities) 9 children each
- Populated Skyrim ..........26 child...ren...
- Fertility Mode 8 children
- Immersive Encounters 2 children
- DragonStone 5 children
- The Great Cities/Towns/Villages
- Shor's Stone 1 child
- Mixwater Mill 1 child
- Moon & Star 1 child
- The Forgotten City 1 child
- Mihail's Cursed Child Doll 1 child
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Cutting Room Floor-
Legacy of the Dragonborn-
Helgen Reborn-
Capital Whiterun ExpansionThanks so much for the continued support though!
I would kill for a version that only uses vanilla hair assets! This is hands down the best child mod for Skyrim but the pretty hair is just something I can't stand. Would you consider making a vanilla hair version? Is it something I could do by myself?
guess my children will look ugly, rip
Totally agree. Also I remember UP messing more stuff in my game many years ago, this is another reason why I never use these anymore. Well, at least you can still use original RS Children, it's still good on itself. Can't even begin to fathom why UP would be a requirement for such a mod like this. I had to break my own principles for You are exceptional mod for FO4, but that mod is a HUGE overhaul of skills and perks for FO4, so I can completely understand why author didn't want to re-fix all bugs with perks that were already fixed in the FO4 ultimate patch. Can't even imagine which Skyrim bug makes this one unplayable without depending on this cursed UP though. It is indeed, a shame.
I fixed it by adjusting my load order. I play in VR, but I suppose it's the same with SSE. I struggled with a brown face bug that would occur for either only Frodnar and Dorthe in Riverwood, or it would be for all the children. This came after installing Realistic RS Children. I also have RS Patch Compendium, Prince And The Pauper, PATP Refine fixes and patches, Hearthfire Multiple Adoptions, AI Overhaul, Realistic Elven Children. All of these interact with eachother and most needs patches. After diving further into the matter, I found that LOOT actually never sorts these mods correctly. That is important to know, LOOT always sorts these wrong ALWAYS, so you need to sort them yourself. I've sorted them and locked them, I use MO2. Now it's working perfectly, so I wanted to share my fix with the rest of you in case it could help anyone. I also do NOT use any of those "brown face fix" mods, so if you use that, maybe you'd get a different result, I don't know.
Anyway, I've posted a pic of my load order, both the plugins on the right pane in MO2, and the ones on the left pane. Here's the link, hope it helps anyone struggling:
https://imgur.com/a/gUhV6xO
Babette's outfit looks nothing like the one on the screenshots, just a dull black robe, am I missing somethingAs it turns out, the outfit comes from Prince and The Pauper SE !
a bit updated LotD v6 patch
and Realistic RS Children - AI Overhaul - Swap Winterhold Jarls -> patch
also would recommend to load RSChildren.esp after USMP - USFixes patch.esp !