im returning after a while and whenever a dice roll is triggered the dice is "gone", only numbers and the rest seems to be transparent, making me unable to do anything but quit and reload. i've read around and some say it is related to ModFix and/or ImpUI. any ideas how to solve?
im returning after a while and whenever a dice roll is triggered the dice is "gone", only numbers and the rest seems to be transparent, making me unable to do anything but quit and reload. i've read around and some say it is related to ModFix and/or ImpUI. any ideas how to solve?
Update every single mod you have to match Patch 7. Many mods hasn't been yet. If no update, remove the mod-files from your harddrive. There is no more "override" mods. In-Game Mod Mananger is a mess Vortex is even more challenging to use. Old mod-paks in AppData//Mods and/or loose files in Data will mess up your game. Modding and multiplayer is a mess. "Official" mods (made with the new tool-kit from Larian) vs all the other mods, are a mess. If problems, start modding from scratch in a pure game-setup. Consult the authors of mods you are using / requiring this code.
Jesus, thanks for the insight. I've got a few subclass mods that aren't playing well with my mod list. Hate to have to start over but I guess I might have too
Vortex works just fine. I never had single issue using it with BG3 or any other game for that matter. There's nothing particularly complicated about what it does for games with packed mods, such as BG3.
i've been modding games over many MANY years, and never have i had more issues with modding than with vortex. i think it's just too generic, and not built for any given game, and as such, gets snagged on random things that never would have snagged on that mod before. i'm so happy that it worked for you, and doesn't give you any problems, but that's not the point being made. the point is that for the majority of cases, it sucks. it working for a handful of people does not disregard the whole problem. keep using it if it works for you, but don't try to convince others they're crazy for thinking it's a buggy mess, because for 90% of people who use it, it IS a buggy mess. thank you.
i've been modding games over many MANY years, and never have i had more issues with modding than with vortex. i think it's just too generic, and not built for any given game, and as such, gets snagged on random things that never would have snagged on that mod before. i'm so happy that it worked for you, and doesn't give you any problems, but that's not the point being made. the point is that for the majority of cases, it sucks. it working for a handful of people does not disregard the whole problem. keep using it if it works for you, but don't try to convince others they're crazy for thinking it's a buggy mess, because for 90% of people who use it, it IS a buggy mess. thank you.
This. It works for a few of us, but its way to easy for users to do something that messes everything up.
PSA: People are welcome to use Vortex, but please be aware of the risk of problems that you might not be able to solve, without (in worst cases) a complete re-formating of your OS-drive. And because of this, the number of community members that are skilled and patient enough to help you out, are few and far between. That leads you back to worst case scenario with complete re-formating and reinstalling of your OS, programs/apps and games. Just because you deleted a vortex file or messed up a setting, so the mods would not load / get uninstalled correctly, and your games are messed up.
because vortex is trash. it was trash for Skyrim. it's trash for BG3.
MO2 for Skyrim
BG3MM for BG3
it's that simple. I won't be back to read your triggered, ego-riddled defensive statements attempting to try to defend your poor choices, so don't bother. Your ego won't let you though, so respond away to make yourself feel better. you know you can't help it... your ego won't let you do anything less.
xoxo, a non-cool kid who has been modding since 2012
Wow, you guys need to calm down, seriously. Vortex isn't that bad of a mod manager, and I haven't had many issues. The ones I did have, I could fix easily. It seems like you're malding over nothing.
@gyrofalcon, Vortex makes you need to reformat your drive? Seriously? Credibility lost.
I am not sure why the hyperbole against Vortex but it works fine for BG3.
Sorry, but your opinions of me, isn't something that effects me.
No. Vortex doesn't make you do anything. But if you mess up / Vortex bugs out, you might end up with games that aren't modded correctly, and might be unplayable. And if you don't know what you are doing within a computer/Vortex, you might end up with the only option left; Re-format of Windows and all games. Note that many do know how to navigate and solve/prevent issues with Vortex, but it looks like there are still a large percentage of users here, that don't know. Or don't play the games that Vortex "broke".
Like others are saying recently, need a patch 7 update to, hopefully, work again. Not sure if this is the cause or not, but I'm wondering if the addition of the official mod manager is the reason why the mods broke
They just need to be updated to patch 7. That is all. Besides, you should either use BG3MM or now the new native mod manager. Vortex shouldn't be used for BG3
ModFixer code will not do anything to help a broken mod-setup in Patch7. Purge everything, and start modding from scratch. Only use mods updated for Patch7, or verified to work with Patch7.
Or just stay on Patch6. If you updated to Patch7, started the game, and trying to go back to Patch6, you're screwed. Purge everything, and start modding from scratch. Also your Larian folders in AppData.
Unfortunately, it seems like I permanently broke the game. It keeps saying there's corrupted data while I'm trying to launch the game normally after getting rid of the mods via Vortex
Unfortunately, it seems like I permanently broke the game. It keeps saying there's corrupted data while I'm trying to launch the game normally after getting rid of the mods via Vortex
Vortex. That's the main problem. When I talk about purge, I'm not thinking of the one you can do from Vortex.
Yeah cause vortex is a LAST choice for games without mod managers of their own. BG3MM and Manual (along with the in game for IO mods) are all you should be using if you want a cohesive not broken experience and understanding.
i have used vortex since early access idk in what world vortex wouldnt be good for bg3. It litterally just drops mods where you tell it to go and then automatically writes to the modsettings file... Vortex is a perfect viable option as long as you are using the community version of it.... no need to spread missinformation because you dont use that manager....
Good to know that xCafex and Roland1405 got Vortex to work with BG3, so everyone else can contact them for troubleshooting. Remember folks, that Nexus doesn't alert users of replies on post or if you mentions them (like with @)
You seem to be the resident know-it-all in this comment section, so I wonder how you failed to get a perfectly good mod manager to work in BG3. 🤔 Maybe you are not as smart as you think. ;-)
You seem to be the resident know-it-all in this comment section, so I wonder how you failed to get a perfectly good mod manager to work in BG3. 🤔 Maybe you are not as smart as you think. ;-)
@gyrofalcon I have also been using Vortex for this game basically since release without issue. Vortex was updated to work with Baldur's Gate 3 like the week the game came out so I don't know why everyone still pretends like it doesn't work with it. Sounds like user incompetence to me, just like when people used to tell people to use Mod Organizer or Fallout Mod Manager instead. Once you learn Vortex, it really is just better than all these other mod managers in pretty much every single way. And you don't have to have separate mod managers for all your different games which is a huge plus
So if you struggle to use Vortex correctly (aka have issues/mods not working), should you truck on and push forward/get more irritated over Vortex not working? Or should you move on and use a mod manager that has a much better track record?
That is generally how you learn things, by not giving up on them. I've been successfully using Vortex since it first came out, and I feel like I was a pretty dumb teenager. I have never felt like the functions were too difficult to understand, they all seem pretty self explanatory to me. Don't ask me why so many mod authors don't recommend it, I've never understood why. People have been disparaging Vortex since the day Nexus announced it as the successor to NMM, I would know because I was one of those people at first. I was just butthurt at the time because I liked the look of NMM though
The only game I've ever played that Vortex wouldn't work for that it was supposed to work for was Red Dead Redemption 2. You've gotta use Lenny's Mod Manager for a lot of mods because of the way the mod authors create and package the mods. People say the same is true for this game, but it isn't. Vortex has always worked for me and the other people in this comment chain. Maybe it does use outdated file paths when installing loose file mods but they seem to work so I don't see why that's an issue. I blame that on Larian anyway for changing the location. WTF kind of a mod install location is hidden in the AppData folder anyway? That's some BS if you ask me, taking up precious space on my SSD. At least let us change the location; how am I supposed to download hundreds of mods now?
That is generally how you learn things, by not giving up on them. I've been successfully using Vortex since it first came out, and I feel like I was a pretty dumb teenager. I have never felt like the functions were too difficult to understand, they all seem pretty self explanatory to me.
Why don't people that have Vortex working, helping out users that have trouble? My experience of the Nexus comment sections across hundreds of mods, are very much "many complains about mods and using Vortex and also zero successful Vortex users helping". You might do something about that?
Maybe it does use outdated file paths when installing loose file mods but they seem to work so I don't see why that's an issue. I blame that on Larian anyway for changing the location.
Wrong on the suggestion of outdated file paths. But points for it to be no issues game-wise. The outdated path structure tells me that either the creator of the add-on don't know, or is too lazy to remove it. The folders causes confusion. And blaming game-studio for changing their mind in EA, is hilarious to me.
WTF kind of a mod install location is hidden in the AppData folder anyway? That's some BS if you ask me, taking up precious space on my SSD. At least let us change the location; how am I supposed to download hundreds of mods now?
Because Larian didn't want to have normal players lurking around in this, causing issues that will later be reported? Microsoft suggest AppData to be the proper folder-structure for profile related data, and for security. Soon Microsoft will force more strict folder-regime, in the name of security, aka "harvesting personal data"
Summary. I see your opinion, but I can't agree with them. I hope you will spend more time help other with Vortex problem.
When I see people actually struggling, I do help them if I feel I'm able to
Because Larian didn't want to have normal players lurking around in this, causing issues that will later be reported? Microsoft suggest AppData to be the proper folder-structure for profile related data, and for security
Didn't want normal players lurking around in this? That isn't a reason it's an excuse. For security my ass. "Normal players" wouldn't be "lurking around causing issues" they would just be playing the game, it's users like us who are gonna be poking around with the files. It's arbitrary and absolutely ridiculous that you can't change the path, anytime I see any program use AppData and they don't let you change it, it honestly pisses me off. I don't blame Larian just because they changed their minds, I was half joking around with that, but I know for a fact they could've changed their minds while still allowing us to decide where to download the mods to and they just decided not to. That's the part I blame them for. I couldn't care less if they say it's for "security reasons" (blatant excuse to harvest our data like you said) I just wish you could put the files anywhere else. What's the point of having multiple hard drives if they're just gonna automatically install everything to the AppData folder? I have had it happen in the past where my C drive was full but no matter how hard I looked I couldn't figure out why. This is when I realized Vortex was installing mods to the AppData folder so I had hundreds of gigabytes of mod files to delete. The great thing was though that once I knew about it, I was able to change the install location to one of my bigger hard drives and it was never an issue again. There is no real reason to be storing things in AppData, I don't care if Microsoft wants us to. These programs are on our computers and we should be allowed to configure them however we see fit.
Didn't want normal players lurking around in this? That isn't a reason it's an excuse. For security my ass. "Normal players" wouldn't be "lurking around causing issues" they would just be playing the game, it's users like us who are gonna be poking around with the files. It's arbitrary and absolutely ridiculous that you can't change the path, anytime I see any program use AppData and they don't let you change it, it honestly pisses me off. I don't blame Larian just because they changed their minds, I was half joking around with that, but I know for a fact they could've changed their minds while still allowing us to decide where to download the mods to and they just decided not to. That's the part I blame them for. I couldn't care less if they say it's for "security reasons" (blatant excuse to harvest our data like you said) I just wish you could put the files anywhere else. What's the point of having multiple hard drives if they're just gonna automatically install everything to the AppData folder? I have had it happen in the past where my C drive was full but no matter how hard I looked I couldn't figure out why. This is when I realized Vortex was installing mods to the AppData folder so I had hundreds of gigabytes of mod files to delete. The great thing was though that once I knew about it, I was able to change the install location to one of my bigger hard drives and it was never an issue again. There is no real reason to be storing things in AppData, I don't care if Microsoft wants us to. These programs are on our computers and we should be allowed to configure them however we see fit.
Your opinion doesn't matter to Microsoft, you're the product. Microsoft builds Win11 (and Win12) so that the only place to store data from 3rd party apps, are in AppData. And soon enough they will kill sym-link files as well. In the name of security. Enjoy.
When I see people actually struggling, I do help them if I feel I'm able to
Cool. I'll advice people that struggles with BG3 and Vortex to contact MarcusDragon for help. Thank you.
Your opinion doesn't matter to Microsoft, you're the product. Microsoft builds Win11 (and Win12) so that the only place to store data from 3rd party apps, are in AppData
I don't know how I've been using Windows 11 since before it officially released and I never noticed this, almost no other game I've ever played required these files to be in AppData except for Minecraft (which has been that way since long before W11 was even thought about.) If this is the new requirement then howcome other "third-party" apps allow you to set your own filepath for things like your Mod Staging folder? Maybe certain data files are required to be in your AppData in W11 but there is absolutely no reason to be arbitrarily storing all the mod files there too. Also I know they don't care what I think. The only thing corporations care about is money. Doesn't mean we can't voice our displeasure when they make asinine decisions like that, even if it is just screaming into the void
I don't know how I've been using Windows 11 since before it officially released and I never noticed this, almost no other game I've ever played required these files to be in AppData except for Minecraft (which has been that way since long before W11 was even thought about.) If this is the new requirement then howcome other "third-party" apps allow you to set your own filepath for things like your Mod Staging folder? Maybe certain data files are required to be in your AppData in W11 but there is absolutely no reason to be arbitrarily storing all the mod files there too. Also I know they don't care what I think. The only thing corporations care about is money. Doesn't mean we can't voice our displeasure when they make asinine decisions like that, even if it is just screaming into the void
True. Win11 today isn't locked down. But since release of Win11, it has got tighter. Larian didn't wake up one morning, thinking AppData would be a nice place to have stuff stored. This is the official guidelines from Microsoft. And more developers/publishers will follow. Firaxis and 2K, updated Civ6 (a 8 year old game) resently, to make use of AppData. Well, time will tell.
I have to agree with Gyrofalcon with this one. It is NOT his responsibility to fix problems with vortex. His problem, is related to mods that have to do with what he has worked on. Not sure if he has or not, neither is it the mod author of this particular mod, to fix issues with vortex as well. I too have had no problems with vortex myself. If you want an educated streamer who can help with downloads, here is one that DOES NOT USE VORTEX and was helpful in setting up a stable game. (1) UPDATED GUIDE for Launch - How to Install Mods for Baldur's Gate 3 [ With BG3 Mod Manager ] - YouTube. Be sure to thank MmoGurl for her great guide. In the comment section there is a reply by AnelorGalor: In the Mod Manager hit settings > open preferences, and make sure the Saved Load Order Path is set to:C:\Users\(Your User Name)\AppData\Local\Larian Studios\Baldur's Gate 3\PlayerProfiles\Public Save the settings. And then File > save load order as > use the name it suggests. That will fix any issue with modding u have it seems.
Another thing, if people need help to understand vortex, GamerPoet on youtube has extensive guides on what the icons IN VORTEX ITSELF are for, and how they work. Most talk about skyrim and fallout, but give you the much needed advice on how to understand the use of vortex itself, for a better and easier use of the manager.
I personally appreciate the effort, but the first video is over a year old, and the second is 6 years old and for Skyrim. Vortex it self and the BG3 add-on has changed so much in that time, because BG3 has changed its folder structure.
The problem people are having with Vortex and BG3 (to my knowledge) is what to do when Vortex doesn't do what the user think Vortex should do. Aka; Troubleshooting Vortex. And most of this stem from user not knowing what Vortex can and can not do, how Vortex ticks, what is a symlink, what is profiles, what is recommended settings setup? What does the different buttons do in the Mods-page do? What is Deploy and Purge, Rules and LoadOrder? What files and folders does Vortex place on your hard drive? What does those do? Where is the mod downloaded to, and where is the mod un-packed placed at? Where is Vortex installed at, and where can I find the BG3 add-on installed? What to do when you think you did everything correctly, but the game / mod doesn't load?
Vortex is plug'n'play for most users, but as soon as Vortex "acts up" (by user not knowing / clicked on something / 3rd party conflict) the Vortex experience is a train-wreck. You go from "I know how to download mods, and everything is cool", to "I need to delete or edit a bunch of files created by Vortex on random places on my computer" in a heartbeat.
...or any mods that uses other 3rd pary dll-hooks. So the cool data-summeries from Larian, are including modded games. So how many times players actually have patted Scratch, will we never know.
I'M confused, after patch 7 should we uninstall this mod and is it safe to do so on an existing save with the fixer already used?
This download can be removed from your Mods-folder if you are using Patch 7 version of the game. It is blocked by Larian, anyway, so to ask if its safe or not, is irrelevant. If you have other mods with this code included, ask the mod-authors what to do.
To be on the "safest" side; Stay on Patch 6 for the rest of your play-through. Then start a new game with updated mod list and game for Patch 7.
Came here from another site where @ZornMuffin had asked about the picture below, which is what I also get when I try to exit. It's a minor thing, just have to hit "Enter" twice, but someone had commented it was left over from this mod and mods requiring it. Anyone able to confirm/fix it?
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There is no more "override" mods.
In-Game Mod Mananger is a mess
Vortex is even more challenging to use.
Old mod-paks in AppData//Mods and/or loose files in Data will mess up your game.
Modding and multiplayer is a mess.
"Official" mods (made with the new tool-kit from Larian) vs all the other mods, are a mess.
If problems, start modding from scratch in a pure game-setup. Consult the authors of mods you are using / requiring this code.
Welcome to Patch 7, hope you're enjoy your stay.
#StayOnPatch6
And when something goes wrong in it, new modders arent going to have a clue what to do and the support available for vortex is a lot smaller
You have a problem with the bg3mm and within minutes you can normally have somebody help you in the official discord and figure it out
The bg3mm is somehow more easy to use than vortex which is basically supposed to automate most of the process for you
There's nothing particularly complicated about what it does for games with packed mods, such as BG3.
It works for a few of us, but its way to easy for users to do something that messes everything up.
PSA:
People are welcome to use Vortex, but please be aware of the risk of problems that you might not be able to solve, without (in worst cases) a complete re-formating of your OS-drive. And because of this, the number of community members that are skilled and patient enough to help you out, are few and far between. That leads you back to worst case scenario with complete re-formating and reinstalling of your OS, programs/apps and games. Just because you deleted a vortex file or messed up a setting, so the mods would not load / get uninstalled correctly, and your games are messed up.
it's that simple. I won't be back to read your triggered, ego-riddled defensive statements attempting to try to defend your poor choices, so don't bother. Your ego won't let you though, so respond away to make yourself feel better. you know you can't help it... your ego won't let you do anything less.
xoxo,
a non-cool kid who has been modding since 2012
I am not sure why the hyperbole against Vortex but it works fine for BG3.
No. Vortex doesn't make you do anything. But if you mess up / Vortex bugs out, you might end up with games that aren't modded correctly, and might be unplayable. And if you don't know what you are doing within a computer/Vortex, you might end up with the only option left; Re-format of Windows and all games. Note that many do know how to navigate and solve/prevent issues with Vortex, but it looks like there are still a large percentage of users here, that don't know.
Or don't play the games that Vortex "broke".
Purge everything, and start modding from scratch. Only use mods updated for Patch7, or verified to work with Patch7.
Or just stay on Patch6. If you updated to Patch7, started the game, and trying to go back to Patch6, you're screwed.
Purge everything, and start modding from scratch.
Also your Larian folders in AppData.
When I talk about purge, I'm not thinking of the one you can do from Vortex.
Vortex works perfectly finer for BG3, I've been using it since release and haven't had a single problem.
Remember folks, that Nexus doesn't alert users of replies on post or if you mentions them (like with @)
So I guess DM is the next best thing?
You seem to be the resident know-it-all in this comment section, so I wonder how you failed to get a perfectly good mod manager to work in BG3. 🤔
Maybe you are not as smart as you think. ;-)
The only game I've ever played that Vortex wouldn't work for that it was supposed to work for was Red Dead Redemption 2. You've gotta use Lenny's Mod Manager for a lot of mods because of the way the mod authors create and package the mods. People say the same is true for this game, but it isn't. Vortex has always worked for me and the other people in this comment chain. Maybe it does use outdated file paths when installing loose file mods but they seem to work so I don't see why that's an issue. I blame that on Larian anyway for changing the location. WTF kind of a mod install location is hidden in the AppData folder anyway? That's some BS if you ask me, taking up precious space on my SSD. At least let us change the location; how am I supposed to download hundreds of mods now?
Summary.
I see your opinion, but I can't agree with them. I hope you will spend more time help other with Vortex problem.
For security my ass. "Normal players" wouldn't be "lurking around causing issues" they would just be playing the game, it's users like us who are gonna be poking around with the files. It's arbitrary and absolutely ridiculous that you can't change the path, anytime I see any program use AppData and they don't let you change it, it honestly pisses me off. I don't blame Larian just because they changed their minds, I was half joking around with that, but I know for a fact they could've changed their minds while still allowing us to decide where to download the mods to and they just decided not to. That's the part I blame them for. I couldn't care less if they say it's for "security reasons" (blatant excuse to harvest our data like you said) I just wish you could put the files anywhere else. What's the point of having multiple hard drives if they're just gonna automatically install everything to the AppData folder? I have had it happen in the past where my C drive was full but no matter how hard I looked I couldn't figure out why. This is when I realized Vortex was installing mods to the AppData folder so I had hundreds of gigabytes of mod files to delete. The great thing was though that once I knew about it, I was able to change the install location to one of my bigger hard drives and it was never an issue again. There is no real reason to be storing things in AppData, I don't care if Microsoft wants us to. These programs are on our computers and we should be allowed to configure them however we see fit.
Enjoy.
I'll advice people that struggles with BG3 and Vortex to contact MarcusDragon for help. Thank you.
Larian didn't wake up one morning, thinking AppData would be a nice place to have stuff stored. This is the official guidelines from Microsoft. And more developers/publishers will follow. Firaxis and 2K, updated Civ6 (a 8 year old game) resently, to make use of AppData.
Well, time will tell.
I didn't know about that, you're right; I can't blame Larian for just following what Microsoft says, and that's my bad
Vortex is ASS. I spent days sorting the game out only for it to corrupt the load order and not recognise it when I do it manually.
Save the settings.
And then File > save load order as > use the name it suggests.
That will fix any issue with modding u have it seems.
You are welcome.
Again, you are welcome.
You are welcome.
Vortex it self and the BG3 add-on has changed so much in that time, because BG3 has changed its folder structure.
The problem people are having with Vortex and BG3 (to my knowledge) is what to do when Vortex doesn't do what the user think Vortex should do.
Aka; Troubleshooting Vortex.
And most of this stem from user not knowing what Vortex can and can not do, how Vortex ticks, what is a symlink, what is profiles, what is recommended settings setup?
What does the different buttons do in the Mods-page do? What is Deploy and Purge, Rules and LoadOrder?
What files and folders does Vortex place on your hard drive? What does those do?
Where is the mod downloaded to, and where is the mod un-packed placed at?
Where is Vortex installed at, and where can I find the BG3 add-on installed?
What to do when you think you did everything correctly, but the game / mod doesn't load?
Vortex is plug'n'play for most users, but as soon as Vortex "acts up" (by user not knowing / clicked on something / 3rd party conflict) the Vortex experience is a train-wreck. You go from "I know how to download mods, and everything is cool", to "I need to delete or edit a bunch of files created by Vortex on random places on my computer" in a heartbeat.
Where does Vortex store the modsettings.lsx?
https://www.youtube.com/@NexusModsOfficial
Latest released 4 hours ago. Funny, because NexusMods are working on the next native mod manager app...
Ask the mod authors of the mods you are using.
If you have other mods with this code included, ask the mod-authors what to do.
To be on the "safest" side; Stay on Patch 6 for the rest of your play-through.
Then start a new game with updated mod list and game for Patch 7.