Also please make the experience required to reach the second level not 300 (as in vanilla) but 301- so that you can see from the first second of the game that your mod is working.
Your mod in the vanilla mod manager "Level Cap Extender 6X" should actually be called "Level Cap Extender 4.23X". Your mistake is that you add the experience that goes beyond level 12 to the "Total XP" amount (177,000 experience should NOT be added to the final "Total XP" value). If I'm not explaining it well, then just in case - to get level 12 you need to fill 11 level scales. And in the tables you created "Level - Level XP - Total XP" it says about 12 scales (11 are needed). It's the same with all your mods 2X 3X 4X 5X. P.S. I hope the Google translator correctly conveyed my thoughts.
Nope, doesn't add extra levels. It dictates the experience points required for each level and the total of all experience points to reach the level cap. If you installed a level cap extender, it would reset your current level according to the number of experience points you have accumulated (assuming Larian continues to add those once you've level-capped at 12). I doubt there would be any real negative repercussions, but I don't promise that. Nor would I mind learning one way or the other. Admittedly, I didn't test LCE that late in the game. I think 10 was the highest level I tested with.
No, not at all. This mod works within the framework of the game and simply gives you choices re the experience points each level requires and the overall experience points that dictate the level cap. See https://playbaldursgate3.com/Mods/Level-Cap-Extender for a breakdown of the experience table for each option.
So sorry for the delay in responding. I've been away.
I downloaded several enemy add mods, so I used the level cap extender well, and I can tell you it's a great mod. If it was released a few months ago, it would've hit 100k downloads enough!
However, when I deleted all mods and reset them by running the level cap extender for multiplayer with users without mods, my experience acquisition was completely blocked.
In this case, is removing the level cap extender from your computer the solution?
I'm unsure since I haven't tested Level Cap Extender with multiplayer. Could be BG 3 demands all users have the same set up. That is likely the cause if the others aren't using Level Cap Extender.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and thank you for the kind words!
I've been using the level cap extender well with several enemy add mods, but now I'm looking to roll back to the exp value requirement of vanilla BG3. So I ran the level cap extender and tried to reset it, but it became impossible to level up, and even though I completely uninstalled the program, it didn't work. (Obviously, in the in-game log, exp values are supplied every time i deal with enemies.) How can I solve this problem?
Note that resetting via Level Cap Extender doesn't reset your XP, just resets the experience point level distribution and total allowed experience points to the vanilla versions.
Uninstalling the program won't remove XPData.txt and Data.txt, which are what control the experience points and level cap. You can try deleting those files manually, which are in the install location for BG 3 under the following directories: Data\Public\SharedDev\Stats\Generated\Data.
However, if you have advanced far enough in the game and accumulated 100,00 experience points or more, you will not be able to level up.
Hello again... sorry to bother you just quick question. Is there any way how to quickly find out if the mod is working at the beginning of the game? I am on the beach and installed the mod (using .net installer) when I was just to level up from first to second level. Now I am at level 2 and it tells me that I need around 690 xp to level up which seems to me kind of like before but maybe it is same or similar number for first few levels. Thanks a lot!
Thanks a lot. I really appreciate you are answering everything. Its clear you got love for the game and the folks around :-). Feels good to be around especially for 43 years old dog like me who plays all his life (from atari/sinclair games loading from tape cassetts :-)) ). Cheers!
I enjoy doing it! BG 3 is a milestone game, not quite as good as BG 2, but it's up there, certainly closer than any other game has come. So I want to support it and its fans. Same is true of Larian. Larian is a rare studio that actually cares about the games it develops and the gamers who play them. Not enough of that in the gaming industry anymore with the likes of Bethesda, CDPR, BiowEAr, Ubisoft, etc. All studios wish to make a profit. For the latter, they make games for the sake of profit. Larian makes games for profit for the sake of making better games.
Hey I think the same. BG1 and 2 were games for which I almost failed my high school final exam since I was playing all the time those jewels. BG3 in many ways is great game and I love Larian for dOS I and II. I spent about 1000 hrs on dOS II and gained all potential achievements. The only 2 things I found a bit disappointing in BG3 though:
1) I cannot define my sexual interest at the beginning of the game so I cannot for instance hang out with Gale having beer talking about life and girls without touching his butt and looking with desire. The same with Astarion and others. Nothing against gay or lesbian or bi players - they could set their interest as well... But I always got weird feeling when I need to turn Gale down since I know where it will lead. Why he cannot show me things about weave just for sake of understanding it? It is unnatural.
2) When it comes to companions and see who is strength-based / fighter based - those are only girls. I do not like this because it is not realistic. Sheer strength is a guy thing - check olympics and separation to male/female category. Usual argument against it is that it is fantasy game - dragons, magic, blabla... so girls can be as strong as guys right? Well.... no. Fantasy world is just alternative reality with its own lore and rules however other than that it usually reflects normal reality from all other points - love, hate, greed, family, job, politics, ... all of that is basically the same as in our world. And even in fantasy worlds girls are pregnant and carry babies... so they follow the same evolution patterns (girls->household, boys->protection). I know it sounds like old way of thinking but all of us are outcome of these roles from physiological and cultural background. I am big fan of equality for girls but that does not mean that because of that they will become testosterone monsters like guys. E.g. in Games of Thrones there are also tough girls but it is in balance... a bit in favour of guys when it comes to sheer strength and definitely in favor of girls when it comes to politics, manipulation, seduction, etc... I am a bit conservative and Damsel in Distress is kind of cool chivalry thing in my book.
Agreed on stats. Take Minsc and Halsin. Both should have at least 18 STR. Minsc especially, who comes with a measly 12. I could not believe that. In BG 1 & 2, he was 18, so to have him as weak as he was made no sense at all. Then again, Minsc has always been messed up, being classified as a ranger by WotC when he is a berserker. Needless to say, I use Withers to respec many PCs.
Larian messed up initial character defining, too. The highest you can make any attribute is 17. That's ridiculous. And depending on what you've selected, you can lose an attribute point. What also gets me is odd numbers make no difference at all. 17 = 16. 15 = 14. And so on. That was poorly handled.
But what I dislike most is what WotC have done to Viconia and Sarevok. The first time I ran into Sarevok, I quit the game. Went back after some weeks, did another playthrough having made the decision to either skip the quest that involves Sarevok or put it off until near the very end. Then I ran into Viconia. Quit again.
The third playthrough ended due to the lavel-cap. Just lost interest. Party stagnation sucks.
That's when I started looking into mods and how I ended up creating the level cap extender. The mods I found that impacted the level cap tended to make the game easier, which makes it boring for me.
I'm now on my fourth playthrough and nearing the end. I've head-cannoned Viconia and Sarevok as generic bosses that have only a passing resemblance to the Viconia and Sarevok I know because that is about all the BG3 versions are really: generic bosses. Thanks to LCE and the mods I listed in the description for my mod, my interest has remained elevated, so I will at long last complete BG 3. :)
Hey bro... you are speaking my mind. In BG2 I brought Sarevok back and he became "good brother". Viconia was my romance choice almost all playthroughts... so you really should not told me that :-)) (no worries... you couldn't know I did not bumped into her yet). - I have not encountered her yet since I did not finish and started over again because of xp limit I reached basically soon after I met Sarevok in Act3 so now I used your mod to distribute xp throughout whole game but I took also more companions to my group 4->6 and being in Act1.
Anyway... BG3 is still great game. They put lot of heart in it. It resembles Larian's dOS games - which is ok... - I really loved those games - but that means that BG3 is much different from BG1 and 2 from basically any perspective. Story telling is not bad but from old BG party members (Jaheira, Viconia, Minsc, Sarevok, ...) its weird. Jaheira is probably closest. And sure Minsc should have strength 19/20 at least - he is supposed to be "berserk monster".
Yikes, sorry for the spoiler! I assumed you knew since Viconia and Sarevok are WotC cannon.
Thanks to the multiple romance mod, I'd romance Aerie, Jaheira, Nalia, and Viconia. Viconia was and is my favorite. Not just from a romance perspective but her character arc. How she can go from what she is in BG 1 to how she is at the end of ToB is fascinating. Same is true of Sarevok. I appreciate the other characters in BG 2 because all were brilliantly written and almost all have some sort of internal struggle, but those outside of Sarevok and Viconia are more stark, less gray. I will say one of the things that never ceases to blow me away about BG 2 is the amount of influence you can have over nearly every PC, ultimately helping determine who they become as people and how their lives turn out. The nuance that BioWare managed in that regard as well as the animosity the PCs had and resolved with each other remains unparalleled.
Had Larian managed to write characters better, structure BG 3's story better, and not have tried so desperately to tie 3 to 1 and 2, I think BG 3 would share the same work-of-art pedestal that BG 2 has solely occupied for over two decades. That said, I will also say I think WotC is mostly to blame. Larian did what it could within the parameters it was provided.
There are two characters that were really well done: Lae'zel and Astarion. The relationship with Lae'zel is the most adult-like and gives fascinating insight into how a gith transforms and becomes not just accustomed but appreciative of her new life. Befriending and/or romancing Astarion provides an opportunity to save him. Shadowheart isn't bad either. She has some tough conflicts, ones that greatly determine the end outcome.
Awesome stuff, those three.
I see familiarity in BG 3 with DoS and BG 1 and 2 yet a departure from those. Regardless its faults, BG 3 is a tremendous effort, a rare and veritable gem, one to be treasured.
Well I kind of tried to "not read" reviews before playing in order to be suprised and there is no way to know who appears and who doesn't. But no worries. To the rest you wrote there is not else to tell... I basically agree with everything. Despite few things I mentioned I believe that BG3 really shines. For perfections - at least for me - would be to add few additional options (like romance interest checkbox with this or that character or just hang up and drink beer with them) or some other things I find redundant (like too many barrels or wooden chests or storages with basically nothing in it and if you collect them and hoard tons of money - you basically cannot spend it for anything meaningful). Hey but those are just small things...
Hey bro... I am working in IT - QA department but doing a bit of coding myself - especially aut. tests. Did some mod for Pillars of Eternity a year ago or so but that seemed to me quite easy - a bit coding changes in C#. Could you direct me what to read / begin with so I can try to do my own mod for this game? Thanks a lot!
C# isn't necessary to mod BG 3 unless you do a custom installer such as I did for Level Cap Extender (some don't know how to use and/or dislike the techier methods). There are some good tutorials out there. Just google "how to create mods BG 3". Here's a step by step located on NexusMods:
Such fun! Don't forget to grab Everburn. It's a terrific greatsword that you can obtain off the cambion fighting the mind flayer when you exit the nautiloid.
Weapon is deadly in Lae'zel's hands as well. So, too, with Sina'zith, a Githyanki hireling monk (likely my favorite fighter of any). Woman can wreak absolute havoc from level 6 on. She's on the left. Her armed and unarmed attacks are killer. Here she has a very rare shortsword (forget the name) and club of hill giant strength which boosts her STR to 19. I like the dual types of weapon damage. :) She's terrific at stunning opponents.
Hey thanks. I think it is great idea to extend xp in case you wish to keep somewhat higher difficulty and still use mods that allow you to have more companions in group and such. Having 6 companions for instance would make it too easy. I do not think you need other mods that increase strength of enemies if you use this mod because if you are 1-3 levels lower compared to them it is already good enough even if you are group of 6 not 4. Cool... :-)
I thought the same! But once you get to Level 7 with 6 members, the game does become very easy even with higher-level enemies. BG 3 just wasn't intended to be all that difficult, which is why the level-cap is so very low.
If the game proves too easy for you, I recommend Tactician Plus and Enemies Enhanced. In fact, I cannot recommend them highly enough. Be warned, though, Installing those will sometimes necessitate 7 - 10 member parties depending on who you're facing (Counting House guards and steel watchers, Bhaalists in high security vault, and Sharrans are just a few examples).
All that said, BG 3 takes on a whole new level of enjoyment with Party Limit Begone and being able to determine who and how many are in the party. It's sheer joy. Another mod I cannot recommend highly enough.
Much appreciated. Ok... I will see... I am already playing on tactician and to be honest I like when my companions but especially main hero feels like serious kickass. Most of my frustration really came from 2 things: 1) Reaching XP cap basically at the beginning of ACT 3. -> This one I fixed by your mod. 2) No being able to have more than 4 people in my active group. -> This one I fixed by having Party Limit Begone mod. Thx again.
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Your mistake is that you add the experience that goes beyond level 12 to the "Total XP" amount (177,000 experience should NOT be added to the final "Total XP" value).
If I'm not explaining it well, then just in case - to get level 12 you need to fill 11 level scales. And in the tables you created "Level - Level XP - Total XP" it says about 12 scales (11 are needed).
It's the same with all your mods 2X 3X 4X 5X.
P.S. I hope the Google translator correctly conveyed my thoughts.
Here's the vanilla game experience table (so you can see the differences if you haven't already):
https://eip.gg/bg3/db/experience-table/
So sorry for the delay in responding. I've been away.
However, when I deleted all mods and reset them by running the level cap extender for multiplayer with users without mods, my experience acquisition was completely blocked.
In this case, is removing the level cap extender from your computer the solution?
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and thank you for the kind words!
I've been using the level cap extender well with several enemy add mods, but now I'm looking to roll back to the exp value requirement of vanilla BG3.
So I ran the level cap extender and tried to reset it, but it became impossible to level up, and even though I completely uninstalled the program, it didn't work.
(Obviously, in the in-game log, exp values are supplied every time i deal with enemies.)
How can I solve this problem?
Uninstalling the program won't remove XPData.txt and Data.txt, which are what control the experience points and level cap. You can try deleting those files manually, which are in the install location for BG 3 under the following directories: Data\Public\SharedDev\Stats\Generated\Data.
However, if you have advanced far enough in the game and accumulated 100,00 experience points or more, you will not be able to level up.
Installed 3 additional encounter mods (Additional Enemy Extend, Death March, Valkrana's Undead Encounters)
And as a result of my first playthrough, I had already reached level 12 by the time I reached Act 3, using the way I played the game.
In addition, considering the three added encounter modes, I chose a profile that triples experience points.
I applaud your professionalism and excellent results.
Thank you so much for uploading such a good mod.
Thanks a lot!
Levels 1 - 3 are the same with some variations to Level 4 depending on the extender you chose. Level 2 is 700 across the board.
Here, you can find experience tables for each of the extenders:
https://playbaldursgate3.com/Mods/Level-Cap-Extender
1) I cannot define my sexual interest at the beginning of the game so I cannot for instance hang out with Gale having beer talking about life and girls without touching his butt and looking with desire. The same with Astarion and others. Nothing against gay or lesbian or bi players - they could set their interest as well... But I always got weird feeling when I need to turn Gale down since I know where it will lead. Why he cannot show me things about weave just for sake of understanding it? It is unnatural.
2) When it comes to companions and see who is strength-based / fighter based - those are only girls. I do not like this because it is not realistic. Sheer strength is a guy thing - check olympics and separation to male/female category. Usual argument against it is that it is fantasy game - dragons, magic, blabla... so girls can be as strong as guys right? Well.... no. Fantasy world is just alternative reality with its own lore and rules however other than that it usually reflects normal reality from all other points - love, hate, greed, family, job, politics, ... all of that is basically the same as in our world. And even in fantasy worlds girls are pregnant and carry babies... so they follow the same evolution patterns (girls->household, boys->protection). I know it sounds like old way of thinking but all of us are outcome of these roles from physiological and cultural background. I am big fan of equality for girls but that does not mean that because of that they will become testosterone monsters like guys. E.g. in Games of Thrones there are also tough girls but it is in balance... a bit in favour of guys when it comes to sheer strength and definitely in favor of girls when it comes to politics, manipulation, seduction, etc... I am a bit conservative and Damsel in Distress is kind of cool chivalry thing in my book.
Larian messed up initial character defining, too. The highest you can make any attribute is 17. That's ridiculous. And depending on what you've selected, you can lose an attribute point. What also gets me is odd numbers make no difference at all. 17 = 16. 15 = 14. And so on. That was poorly handled.
But what I dislike most is what WotC have done to Viconia and Sarevok. The first time I ran into Sarevok, I quit the game. Went back after some weeks, did another playthrough having made the decision to either skip the quest that involves Sarevok or put it off until near the very end. Then I ran into Viconia. Quit again.
The third playthrough ended due to the lavel-cap. Just lost interest. Party stagnation sucks.
That's when I started looking into mods and how I ended up creating the level cap extender. The mods I found that impacted the level cap tended to make the game easier, which makes it boring for me.
I'm now on my fourth playthrough and nearing the end. I've head-cannoned Viconia and Sarevok as generic bosses that have only a passing resemblance to the Viconia and Sarevok I know because that is about all the BG3 versions are really: generic bosses. Thanks to LCE and the mods I listed in the description for my mod, my interest has remained elevated, so I will at long last complete BG 3. :)
Anyway... BG3 is still great game. They put lot of heart in it. It resembles Larian's dOS games - which is ok... - I really loved those games - but that means that BG3 is much different from BG1 and 2 from basically any perspective. Story telling is not bad but from old BG party members (Jaheira, Viconia, Minsc, Sarevok, ...) its weird. Jaheira is probably closest. And sure Minsc should have strength 19/20 at least - he is supposed to be "berserk monster".
Thanks to the multiple romance mod, I'd romance Aerie, Jaheira, Nalia, and Viconia. Viconia was and is my favorite. Not just from a romance perspective but her character arc. How she can go from what she is in BG 1 to how she is at the end of ToB is fascinating. Same is true of Sarevok. I appreciate the other characters in BG 2 because all were brilliantly written and almost all have some sort of internal struggle, but those outside of Sarevok and Viconia are more stark, less gray. I will say one of the things that never ceases to blow me away about BG 2 is the amount of influence you can have over nearly every PC, ultimately helping determine who they become as people and how their lives turn out. The nuance that BioWare managed in that regard as well as the animosity the PCs had and resolved with each other remains unparalleled.
Had Larian managed to write characters better, structure BG 3's story better, and not have tried so desperately to tie 3 to 1 and 2, I think BG 3 would share the same work-of-art pedestal that BG 2 has solely occupied for over two decades. That said, I will also say I think WotC is mostly to blame. Larian did what it could within the parameters it was provided.
There are two characters that were really well done: Lae'zel and Astarion. The relationship with Lae'zel is the most adult-like and gives fascinating insight into how a gith transforms and becomes not just accustomed but appreciative of her new life. Befriending and/or romancing Astarion provides an opportunity to save him. Shadowheart isn't bad either. She has some tough conflicts, ones that greatly determine the end outcome.
Awesome stuff, those three.
I see familiarity in BG 3 with DoS and BG 1 and 2 yet a departure from those. Regardless its faults, BG 3 is a tremendous effort, a rare and veritable gem, one to be treasured.
https://www.nexusmods.com/baldursgate3/mods/1514
If you're talking about creating mod tools, there is lslib:
https://github.com/Norbyte/lslib
Anything else might be recreating the wheel. The code, however, is extensible.
Changing the actual behavior of the game (written in C++) would be difficult.
Cool... :-)
If the game proves too easy for you, I recommend Tactician Plus and Enemies Enhanced. In fact, I cannot recommend them highly enough. Be warned, though, Installing those will sometimes necessitate 7 - 10 member parties depending on who you're facing (Counting House guards and steel watchers, Bhaalists in high security vault, and Sharrans are just a few examples).
All that said, BG 3 takes on a whole new level of enjoyment with Party Limit Begone and being able to determine who and how many are in the party. It's sheer joy. Another mod I cannot recommend highly enough.
1) Reaching XP cap basically at the beginning of ACT 3. -> This one I fixed by your mod.
2) No being able to have more than 4 people in my active group. -> This one I fixed by having Party Limit Begone mod.
Thx again.