Hey all not sure if anybody has has had this issue but incase you have here is MY solution: BL2 FIX x War machine
If your having it where you have used the text mode loader and WM is auto run you might have noticed BL2 fix has disabled itself and may not even allow you to re enable it if you do have this issue disable the auto textmod loader for war machine and restart the game then re enable bl2fix and run wm.txt in the command prompt of the game (in game console however you want to word it default is f1 if hex edited) it does mean manually running war machine every time you load the game up but allows you to run both mods together if the auto loader broke for you.
This could very well be an issue on my end but if it isn't and you are having the same issue please try this.
Thank you for sharing the issue and how to fix it. I'll update your solution to the main page and credit you for it. I did hear some cases of people having this issue. I could be wrong, but the issue was said to come from BL2 Fix. Some other text mods also have this problem as well. But with your solution, everything should be fine.
I'm glad I can be of help it drove me nuts for awhile because BL2 fix has wormed its way into one of my favourite mods of all time for pure utility purposes haha and no need to credit me its the solution that worked for me and if it helps others than that's just a bonus.
warning this is going to be a long read full of terrible grammar and terrible explanations I apologise in advance and icecream I love this mod please any negatives I put here are in no reflection hate toward you or this mod I'm having a tone of fun and will be going to op8 with other characters (I avoid op10 and disable it).
this is sorta suedo review I'm no borderlands min max expert by any means but this is what I'm feeling.
Maya is both great and kinda meh with in my opinion blue tree feels like a lack luster skill tree even with coms I will get into the coms in a moment but just to say this first the fact that most of her skills in that tree are so phaselock dependant and built for scorn feel off I know scorn used to nuke things but I kinda feel like scorn takes too much building into for the damage it can currently give with large downtimes inbetween perhaps I am building wrong that is entirely possible but blue tree feels like a dump stat or in this case a dump tree with the only use I got from it being specing it for teras combo pack I like the capstones they are great res being a large extention to phaselock is awesome and I have no complaints with power of the cosmos I feel the cooldown rate extention is fair enough maybe a little harsh but not too bad.
Emergency circumstance is a bane to use it takes phaselock from being a one click savior to a run killer the health regen is nice and would be viable with doctress but thats an issue for with that com itself I like sustenance and emergency condensation I have no issues with those other than maybe emergencies stacks degrading very quickly (lol skill issue on my end) and leverage being a one point dip is great however that being said there isn't really anything else in this tree that feels viable and I wouldn't take these skills over specing red or green tree ward is an okay panic button but at op8 your shield is rare to keep up maybe a bee shield panic ? but still. I just feel the tree is kinda lackluster in comparison to how awesome the others are (and people are welcome to disagree maybe you have a build maybe I'm garbo thats entirely possible too)
Scorn feels like a wet noodle it chunks a smidge of health don't get me wrong I'm not expecting it to do pre patch levels of insanity nor am I expecting it to one tap pete however investing and building so heavily for a skill that is often on cooldown that I can out damage with grenades feels disappointing.
red tree yeah not much here to say other than an issue I have with godfall the tree is fun only skill I dislike is null nova because I can't tell if its killing me or if that was my chain lightning xD other than that red tree is amazing and I love it.
green tree my two gripes which are partly a common issue ONE blight phenoix this skill is just bad honestly its a kill skill as well its a chore to use I don't wanna get in peoples grill and to spec for damage with it requires red tree so bye blue tree it isn't amazing its also been inconsistent for me with teras combo pack saying its procced and doing nothing whilst I'm stood next to something. my other issue is really not that big of a problem and thats just how much you need to spec quicken for teras combo pack to even work without it that com is dead and I will talk about teras in a moment.
Overall I enjoy maya I have issues with blue tree am in love with red tree and really enjoy green tree. I will review coms in a second post I am so sorry for the light novel I have written here lol don't block me pls xD love this mod well done tho the weapons are awesome I have some small gear issues but nothing major nothing I can't work around and nothing that springs to mind as a major problem and they are likely just skill issues lol.
This version of Gaige is absolutely THE BEST I've ever tried, even including the vanilla or other mods. Gaige has never been this enjoyable. Absolute kudos to the mod creator
Thank you very much, I still do modding in the background and in Discord but at a much slower pace compared to the past. At least now that my moving work is done, I can go back working more on the mod now. Hope you enjoy the newest update, the latest shields addition will bring a lot of fun!
I have gotten a lot of coms from tinas and the legendary pool and honestly its a mixed bunch
Tinas first I love them when my game isn't being weird I don't know whether this is MY game an intentional thing or just a bug in the patch however coms that buff SMG damage (or nerf?) keep flipping sometimes I load in and an smg class mod I have will say -50% smg damage and I test it and it indeed does nerf my damage other times the opposite will happen I have only seen it on smg class mods I do run a lot of other mods and haven't done indepth testing to see if its a me problem but its weird that it flip flops
the godly cleric com that buffs eridium sanction if you nerf this com I will need at least 400 tubs of ice cream to get over the depression it will cause me because eridium sanction with +6 is incredible and has been my primary build since I got my hands on one of them single handled this is the best com for maya for splash based weapons and I adore it please don't nerf I will take out a loan to cry with ice cream.
the other coms are nothing to write home about but nothing to cry about either they are all amazing for speccing different weapon types and are all worth trying.
base game blue and purple coms the different witch type coms pail in comparison to the cleric in terms of status damage and the com that buffs slag damage (I forget its name and didn't have one on me at time of writing) the slag com is likely the strongest of the bunch down to the pure strength of slag in this mod but like I said in comparison to cleric with eridium sanction hell witch and the corrosive varient just feel lackluster to use they need to provide a serious bump in their given damage flavour or god forbid eridium sanction needs a nerf I'm no balance expert I leave that in your capable hands yet they fall behind they are good early game but late to end game I ignore them.
legendaries Oh boy this is where I get flamed for being a noob and not knowing how to use these coms but lets ball
Godfall ... where to start I understand that maya is the girl that murders people with every flavour of the rainbow but the gun damage nerf feels excessive upwards of 80% or more is painful and considering to my knowledge the legendary cat com is gone this would be the ideal com for say the new hellfire (which is amazing) yet I can out damage the godfall hellfire with a cleric hellfire because eridium sanction exists the penalty for running this com is to hit like a wet noodle with bullets and a fright train with elemental damage I understand but outside of slag dot takes time to kill and isn't as effective imo I'm sure that in a few days when I have played more with the godfall com that perhaps my view will change but it feels like a cleric com that nerfs you at the same time even more so that its a maliwan based status buff maya would have far more options if it wasn't locked to maliwan it doesn't sound like much but I want to use the retcher or the omen in combination with this com yet I feel locked into using maliwan (I'm not knocking on the red tree skill that does the same thing as that skill is a choice and only active with phaselock) if godfall had eridium sanction even as a +2 max it would be amazing or if the damage nerf wasn't so high or just a combination I'm sure there is a line that the godfall is under right now that is between being a meh com where it is right now and the apex predator of class mods and I know that balance is hard but it just doesn't feel that fun to use when I know cleric exists.
binder I will put a disclaimer that I haven't used this com a hole lot but I know I dislike it (lol) I could be a scrub that needs to experiment more with this but melee focus maya isn't amazing and I know this is a scorn com but scorn isn't doing too hot either as previously stated the part that melee damage is also applied to status effect damage is cool buuuut it feels like a gimick ngl yes it has skills that impart are built for up front combat but it offers little in survivability outside of sustenenance and AGAIN nerfs gun damage if this com gave (my com is -72%) 72% of your gun damage is transfered to melee damage and gave melee and enhanced splash damage based effect I think it would be somewhere near viable maybe with built in life steal it could be really cool but right now it feels like it was built to buff the scorn of a bygone era and isn't an enjoyable playstyle for raiding or mobbing. again I am limited in knowledge and I'm no build expert but this is all my opinion and if anyone has found something that works please feel free to tell me I would love to try it.
Doctress.. I want to love this com I do as much as I dislike blue tree this things health regen is awesome BUT again its built for scorn and that deal of the devil is insane having two coms built entirely for scorn a skill that isn't all its hyped up to be is insanity doctress buffing melee cooldown rate feels like it would be on the binder I'm happy to see no damage nerf but the HEALTH nerf is just as painful I understand it grants you health regen and a metric tone of max health but DOTD (deal of the devil) is such a punishment at the endgame a neutral com built for survival that is entirely build for scorn and punishes you for being healthy feels far to detrimental again I am no expert and I will be trying out more combinations with this com as I will with the others but I feel this com goes too far others nerf damage this nerfs survivability whilst also dangling survivability on a stick infront of you just out of reach whilst also trying to be a scorn class mod ? for some reason it doesn't feel focused it doesn't feel all that legendary it feels sub par (Okay I feel like I'm being mean I'm sorry ice cream love your mod buddy I hope you don't hate me because war machine is great)
Leg siren : honestly zero complaints this com is bloody awesome I could sit here and sing your praises with it all day but I won't as I'm already writing a novel it will be available on kindle at some point xD it suffers a little in fights without ads but thats not why we built riccochete witch in vanilla in the first place no complaints only love.
teras combo pack... I have a love hate relationship with this com on one hand it has the potential to be awesome and at times feels great too on the other A it is entirely dependant on quicken to be viable its stats granted to you feel like a bit of a cop out giving flat damage to elemental sources and a buff to mag and health is cool but nothing amazing I wouldn't be against this staying if the rest of it felt viable it doesn't buff any of the skills outside of quicken that you actually NEED for this com to be viable and at the end of the day maya only has 4 kill skills and only two of which are really viable without needing to put such a dip into blue tree which I have already spoken about previously if it has a unquie effect for each kill skill (I'm sure there are limitations on what you can do so this is kinda out there I know I'm not asking for miracles) then maybe it would be more viable but at current it doesn't even give a skill dip for the skills it REQUIRES you to use and of those required skills only wreck and foresight are worth speccing into as speccing for adrenaline is very much a point sink I want to love this com the idea of making kill skills better are awesome but A maya doesn't have enough KS or enough good ones of the ones she does have and B this com feels lackluster if I want to boss I use cleric if I want to mob I use leg siren I WANT to use teras but it doesn't offer viable stat buffs that are impressive or a unique viable gift to your current kill skills I don't want to talk smack about this com because it SHOULD be amazing and I love the route you take with your overhauls for all the issues I have with the coms for maya I know that with some tuning they can be amazing but having the slayer of tera com aka your teras combo pack com be a mediocre one feels underwhelming
I want to finish by saying I mean no ill will with anything I have said here I love this mod I love your work the weapons the characters everything is so much fun my glitches could very much be a ME problem and I try my best to fix them but this coms I can't fix I can give suggestions but I know your well into dev with krieg and whatever is to come next mayas only gripes are her blue tree being lack luster and her coms two legendary ones speccing for a skill that doesn't deserve the attention of two legendary coms and one failing to compete with a blue tina com I love your work I hope you don't block me from posting here and I can't wait to try other characters to OP 8 with this mod you have my endorsement and I adore your dedication and I apologise for the light novel the publications from kindle will be coming soon lol keep up the great work icecream and hopefully you don't nerf eridium sanction and require me to get ice cream to cry with lol. <3
Oh I forgot that damn maliwan plus 6 ammo cost com screw that class mod just for the record when I can get tina coms that give me insane damage bumps for a hole family of weapons the ammo cost for maliwan weapons is absurd ... okay that one was typed with a smidge of aggression but seriously ouch my ammo economy seriously please do something to make this com not break bank so much. love you lol
For the weird reduced damage on COM, you can just re-equip the COM and the game will automatically fix it. -> this one is very weird, idk if i's a bug or the game itself causing it. Even after using a better formular for COMs bonus, it can sometimes still happen.
For the rest, I'll look into them. Please do note that I did a bunch of nerf once Krieg was released. That might contribute to all the mediocre performance of all COMs you have got so far. I will slowly improve them again to make sure they will perform better. Thanks for your light novel of words! Keep them coming.
I appreciate you reading them haha publications coming soon. Again I am thankful for this mod and will bring any viable info I can to you I will likely be trying axton next soon once I have fought every raid boss at op8 on Maya (only dexi left) I do enjoy Maya even with my gripes with her she is a lot of fun and I'm glad I tried war machine Il try to condense my reviews next time :)
Glad you enjoyed the mod so far. Once I have more free time to develop besides just fixing Krieg, I'll get back to adjusting Maya's COMs that you have mentioned.
Thank you also I tried the class mod fix it unfortunately didn't work for me so idk what to do there it's been affecting some other class mods recently as well but only the Tina coms and the two its affected for me is movement speed and smg damage.
No problem. With the new upcoming patch, perhaps some of your opinions on some of these COMs will change. If it does, you can edit / update your "part 2" comment here. And I will recheck all the new points again in order to work on what will need changing. Cheers!
Apologies ice I'm posting issues again and for once I don't think this one is my own fault I wanna say before hand I AM LOVING YOUR MOD it is so much fun and I am really having a great time with it about to start UVHM.
During the arena fight in the torge dlc the end of level chest that puts you to sleep will crash it works fine with the mod entirely disabled however with the mod enabled crashes every time I believe this has something to do with the disabling of cloud kills fog particle as it uses the same effect I could be wrong but I believe this is the main problem (I am also playing maya) I have not tested whether or not re enabling cloud kills particles will fix the issue but might be worth a look.
I tried disabling my imported mods (same thing I did with vault of the warrior) this didn't work same crash I ran the mission mod turned off (UVHM hurts when you didn't bring slag lol) and it worked fine this again could entirely be a ME problem and I hate to be complaining about the mod I'm honestly having a great time I just want to report any issues I find as I said it might be a me problem I do run SDK mods along side any text mods but like I said I only turned off war machine and that fixed it if anyone else can reproduce the issue feel free to let me know.
EDIT: I'm editing again lol I went into blcmm and re enabled cloud kill particles and no crash at all
TLDR : If you crash in the Torge DLC arena or furnace area its because mayas cloud kill particles are DISABLED by default to fix issue for yourself go into blcmm - tab 2 vault hunter changes - maya the siren goddess - skill changes cataclysm - cloud kill v1 - and make sure "Completely remove smoke particle" is not ticked no word on remove sound but maybe to play it safe do the same.
oh lord, I seem to keep missing messages on Nexusmod on time. Thank you for the report. I'll enable it next time. Hopefully I can put out another small update this Sunday with your fix as well as Krieg's damage improvement.
No worries brother sorry for the spam lol I keep finding weird issues xD I've gotten to UVHM now so thats fun need to try n get seraph crystals killed pete and he isn't giving me any so something tells me I need to somehow kill hyperious and gee .. fml
This one has been fixed in beta patch. You should be able to see the patch on Discord soon. If this still happens, feel free to dm me on Discord or report the error here.
Not a complaint or bug this time but a feature request ? or something along those lines
The rough rider shield + relic of war unfortunately doesn't allow you to use the rough rider as a shield (I know thats not its purpose) however it would be really cool if you could combine the pair together I mean the relic in comparison to main shields isn't the biggest shield so combining it with the RR wouldn't be over powered (I think) not sure how that would work perhaps adding a recharge delay to the RR maybe ?
Thanks again for this amazing work and apologies for the amount of posts I've been making on here I know your busy so hopefully they aren't too infuriating to deal with lol.
Not a problem. I can just replace something else for the relic of war. This means next patch you might have to re-farm another relic of war shield replacement.
Damn shame I'm pretty sure I have a max 18% damage one lol I really enjoy the concept of it a shield in the relic slot is awesome so I hope you don't get rid of it entirely.
Okay so I'm struggling to get class mods am I oblivious to where they drop ? I've been farming tubby spider ants and all I'm getting is WTF shields and relic of war relics along with the funny rocket launcher lol help.
EDIT: 1 sorry for posting here then finding solutions to my problems and wasting your time lol 2 I found the issue and its one people should know about THE MOD ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH NO WASTED COMS not angry caps just making it obvious I took a shot in the dark to see if that was the issue and yes it was your edits to the coms in the game don't apply to no wasted coms so it can't figure out what to drop in place so only drops base game leg siren coms instead ashame but better to know.
TLDR : This mod is not compatible with the no wasted coms mod if you use NWC you will not get custom com drops for the overhauled characters from any source.
No worries, I have read all of what you have written. I've read what Apocalyptech (the author of no wasted coms) said. It seems that you will have to enter the game first then exit to main menu and re-execute that mod later. Usually, mods that are executed later will override those which were executed first. This should perhaps help with the compatible issue.
Krieg is currently impossible without very good gear in uvhm, if I disable the mod I can do any content fine without any adjustment at all, with this activated i simply don't have anything going for me except mobility. For comparison I did a skill reset and played without expending any skill point and its not even noticeable since my gear is what has been carrying me. Example many skills will provide 20-40(max)% damage at max(bj fu etc) stacks, literally my tediore shield has more than that and I dont have to stack.
I had the same problem with bl 2.5 and snowbound both felt impossible without the best gear available, I initially thought was a skill issue on my part too, until I tested by playing without any skillpoints and it was the same thing, not pratically the same, just the same vs expending your skill points. Both mods(now this one too)have all skills be so trash AND have so many drawbacks that its not even worth it using them. I'll stick with my axton thank you.
Thank you for your report. I'm working on improving his skill scaling. This issue with Krieg being weak has been noticed. He will have some of his vanilla perk back in the next patch.
Not sure if anyone has had this issue and its weird.
I can't load into the vault of the warrior with this mod enabled not clue as to why I can load in without it enabled but the moment I enable WM.TXT the loading screen is infinite not frozen as the gun still spins and the hints change but never loads into it the vault I left it to try and load for over half an hour lol I tried fresh installing the patch that didn't seem to work and I tried steam file verify that didn't work either for the record its TVHM not normal mode I didn't have this issue on normal mode I will do some more digging in my own time entirely possible I caused this issue (I'm not the brightest spark) but if anyone else has had this issue and has a solution I would truly appreciate any advice.
EDIT : weird but ANOTHER fresh install of the mod worked but the moment I import ANY mod into WM it broke and I mean anything MCOP loot midget world hell even no more orders I have to disable every imported mod that isn't WM base code in order to go into vault of the warrior ( with any mods I import I try to make sure there are no conflicts disable things in them that conflict and if a mod is dependant on a conflict I remove it everything was white no conflicts in blcmm so I really have no clue whats going on)
That is actually super weird. My main dev patch also contains a lot of other mods for testing and nothing crashes for me so far. Perhaps it is the half rework of The Warrior fight might be the issue. I suggest you disable that for the moment.
It's in 5. Gameplay rework -> enemy rework -> mini bosses -> base game -> warrior
Yeah I have no idea what happened I managed to jerry rig my way around it by turning off my support mods but no worries on a patch I appreciate your constant support of this mod like seriously its awesome to see you support it this long term I've seen many cool mods come and go purely on the fact their creators don't update or fix issues (I am not going to name any names but I've played a lot of overhaul mods) so to see you care this much and update this regularly is really cool man.
Hey icecream I'm trying the mod for the first time today just wondered does bl2 fix work with this via the UCP compat option in the bl2 fix mod options ? I know wm has ucp built in like many other mods so I assume thats correct ?
PS I've seen gameplay and it looks unreal to any mod I've played before and I've played a lot of bl2 mods listening them here would be a paragraph n a half but I'm interested to try yours I didn't really pay attention to it at first (apologies) as I thought it was just another axton rework and then I saw everything else and well I can entirely say I was incorrect lol.
Sorry for the late reply, I haven't had much free time to check on nexusmods. For BL2fix, it's compatible with the mod. You can enable any setting you would like in BL2fix without having to worry about compatibility issue. Since I haven't updated the picture or uploaded any promotion videos for the mod so I understand why you thought this was only Axton rework at first, this one is on me. Anyway, if you have any question or issue, please share it with me. Thank you for trying the mod out. Have a great day!
I truely appreciate it and take your time your not a 24/7 support team your a modder making a community project I'm not expecting instant replies but I appreciate it when they come regardless.
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JumpIf your having it where you have used the text mode loader and WM is auto run you might have noticed BL2 fix has disabled itself and may not even allow you to re enable it if you do have this issue disable the auto textmod loader for war machine and restart the game then re enable bl2fix and run wm.txt in the command prompt of the game (in game console however you want to word it default is f1 if hex edited) it does mean manually running war machine every time you load the game up but allows you to run both mods together if the auto loader broke for you.
This could very well be an issue on my end but if it isn't and you are having the same issue please try this.
warning this is going to be a long read full of terrible grammar and terrible explanations I apologise in advance and icecream I love this mod please any negatives I put here are in no reflection hate toward you or this mod I'm having a tone of fun and will be going to op8 with other characters (I avoid op10 and disable it).
this is sorta suedo review I'm no borderlands min max expert by any means but this is what I'm feeling.
Maya is both great and kinda meh with in my opinion blue tree feels like a lack luster skill tree even with coms I will get into the coms in a moment but just to say this first the fact that most of her skills in that tree are so phaselock dependant and built for scorn feel off I know scorn used to nuke things but I kinda feel like scorn takes too much building into for the damage it can currently give with large downtimes inbetween perhaps I am building wrong that is entirely possible but blue tree feels like a dump stat or in this case a dump tree with the only use I got from it being specing it for teras combo pack I like the capstones they are great res being a large extention to phaselock is awesome and I have no complaints with power of the cosmos I feel the cooldown rate extention is fair enough maybe a little harsh but not too bad.
Emergency circumstance is a bane to use it takes phaselock from being a one click savior to a run killer the health regen is nice and would be viable with doctress but thats an issue for with that com itself I like sustenance and emergency condensation I have no issues with those other than maybe emergencies stacks degrading very quickly (lol skill issue on my end) and leverage being a one point dip is great however that being said there isn't really anything else in this tree that feels viable and I wouldn't take these skills over specing red or green tree ward is an okay panic button but at op8 your shield is rare to keep up maybe a bee shield panic ? but still. I just feel the tree is kinda lackluster in comparison to how awesome the others are (and people are welcome to disagree maybe you have a build maybe I'm garbo thats entirely possible too)
Scorn feels like a wet noodle it chunks a smidge of health don't get me wrong I'm not expecting it to do pre patch levels of insanity nor am I expecting it to one tap pete however investing and building so heavily for a skill that is often on cooldown that I can out damage with grenades feels disappointing.
red tree yeah not much here to say other than an issue I have with godfall the tree is fun only skill I dislike is null nova because I can't tell if its killing me or if that was my chain lightning xD other than that red tree is amazing and I love it.
green tree my two gripes which are partly a common issue ONE blight phenoix this skill is just bad honestly its a kill skill as well its a chore to use I don't wanna get in peoples grill and to spec for damage with it requires red tree so bye blue tree it isn't amazing its also been inconsistent for me with teras combo pack saying its procced and doing nothing whilst I'm stood next to something. my other issue is really not that big of a problem and thats just how much you need to spec quicken for teras combo pack to even work without it that com is dead and I will talk about teras in a moment.
Overall I enjoy maya I have issues with blue tree am in love with red tree and really enjoy green tree. I will review coms in a second post I am so sorry for the light novel I have written here lol don't block me pls xD love this mod well done tho the weapons are awesome I have some small gear issues but nothing major nothing I can't work around and nothing that springs to mind as a major problem and they are likely just skill issues lol.
Mayas class mods
I have gotten a lot of coms from tinas and the legendary pool and honestly its a mixed bunch
Tinas first
I love them when my game isn't being weird I don't know whether this is MY game an intentional thing or just a bug in the patch however coms that buff SMG damage (or nerf?) keep flipping sometimes I load in and an smg class mod I have will say -50% smg damage and I test it and it indeed does nerf my damage other times the opposite will happen I have only seen it on smg class mods I do run a lot of other mods and haven't done indepth testing to see if its a me problem but its weird that it flip flops
the godly cleric com that buffs eridium sanction if you nerf this com I will need at least 400 tubs of ice cream to get over the depression it will cause me because eridium sanction with +6 is incredible and has been my primary build since I got my hands on one of them single handled this is the best com for maya for splash based weapons and I adore it please don't nerf I will take out a loan to cry with ice cream.
the other coms are nothing to write home about but nothing to cry about either they are all amazing for speccing different weapon types and are all worth trying.
base game blue and purple coms
the different witch type coms pail in comparison to the cleric in terms of status damage and the com that buffs slag damage (I forget its name and didn't have one on me at time of writing) the slag com is likely the strongest of the bunch down to the pure strength of slag in this mod but like I said in comparison to cleric with eridium sanction hell witch and the corrosive varient just feel lackluster to use they need to provide a serious bump in their given damage flavour or god forbid eridium sanction needs a nerf I'm no balance expert I leave that in your capable hands yet they fall behind they are good early game but late to end game I ignore them.
legendaries
Oh boy this is where I get flamed for being a noob and not knowing how to use these coms but lets ball
Godfall ... where to start I understand that maya is the girl that murders people with every flavour of the rainbow but the gun damage nerf feels excessive upwards of 80% or more is painful and considering to my knowledge the legendary cat com is gone this would be the ideal com for say the new hellfire (which is amazing) yet I can out damage the godfall hellfire with a cleric hellfire because eridium sanction exists the penalty for running this com is to hit like a wet noodle with bullets and a fright train with elemental damage I understand but outside of slag dot takes time to kill and isn't as effective imo I'm sure that in a few days when I have played more with the godfall com that perhaps my view will change but it feels like a cleric com that nerfs you at the same time even more so that its a maliwan based status buff maya would have far more options if it wasn't locked to maliwan it doesn't sound like much but I want to use the retcher or the omen in combination with this com yet I feel locked into using maliwan (I'm not knocking on the red tree skill that does the same thing as that skill is a choice and only active with phaselock) if godfall had eridium sanction even as a +2 max it would be amazing or if the damage nerf wasn't so high or just a combination I'm sure there is a line that the godfall is under right now that is between being a meh com where it is right now and the apex predator of class mods and I know that balance is hard but it just doesn't feel that fun to use when I know cleric exists.
binder I will put a disclaimer that I haven't used this com a hole lot but I know I dislike it (lol) I could be a scrub that needs to experiment more with this but melee focus maya isn't amazing and I know this is a scorn com but scorn isn't doing too hot either as previously stated the part that melee damage is also applied to status effect damage is cool buuuut it feels like a gimick ngl yes it has skills that impart are built for up front combat but it offers little in survivability outside of sustenenance and AGAIN nerfs gun damage if this com gave (my com is -72%) 72% of your gun damage is transfered to melee damage and gave melee and enhanced splash damage based effect I think it would be somewhere near viable maybe with built in life steal it could be really cool but right now it feels like it was built to buff the scorn of a bygone era and isn't an enjoyable playstyle for raiding or mobbing. again I am limited in knowledge and I'm no build expert but this is all my opinion and if anyone has found something that works please feel free to tell me I would love to try it.
Doctress.. I want to love this com I do as much as I dislike blue tree this things health regen is awesome BUT again its built for scorn and that deal of the devil is insane having two coms built entirely for scorn a skill that isn't all its hyped up to be is insanity doctress buffing melee cooldown rate feels like it would be on the binder I'm happy to see no damage nerf but the HEALTH nerf is just as painful I understand it grants you health regen and a metric tone of max health but DOTD (deal of the devil) is such a punishment at the endgame a neutral com built for survival that is entirely build for scorn and punishes you for being healthy feels far to detrimental again I am no expert and I will be trying out more combinations with this com as I will with the others but I feel this com goes too far others nerf damage this nerfs survivability whilst also dangling survivability on a stick infront of you just out of reach whilst also trying to be a scorn class mod ? for some reason it doesn't feel focused it doesn't feel all that legendary it feels sub par (Okay I feel like I'm being mean I'm sorry ice cream love your mod buddy I hope you don't hate me because war machine is great)
Leg siren : honestly zero complaints this com is bloody awesome I could sit here and sing your praises with it all day but I won't as I'm already writing a novel it will be available on kindle at some point xD it suffers a little in fights without ads but thats not why we built riccochete witch in vanilla in the first place no complaints only love.
teras combo pack... I have a love hate relationship with this com on one hand it has the potential to be awesome and at times feels great too on the other A it is entirely dependant on quicken to be viable its stats granted to you feel like a bit of a cop out giving flat damage to elemental sources and a buff to mag and health is cool but nothing amazing I wouldn't be against this staying if the rest of it felt viable it doesn't buff any of the skills outside of quicken that you actually NEED for this com to be viable and at the end of the day maya only has 4 kill skills and only two of which are really viable without needing to put such a dip into blue tree which I have already spoken about previously if it has a unquie effect for each kill skill (I'm sure there are limitations on what you can do so this is kinda out there I know I'm not asking for miracles) then maybe it would be more viable but at current it doesn't even give a skill dip for the skills it REQUIRES you to use and of those required skills only wreck and foresight are worth speccing into as speccing for adrenaline is very much a point sink I want to love this com the idea of making kill skills better are awesome but A maya doesn't have enough KS or enough good ones of the ones she does have and B this com feels lackluster if I want to boss I use cleric if I want to mob I use leg siren I WANT to use teras but it doesn't offer viable stat buffs that are impressive or a unique viable gift to your current kill skills I don't want to talk smack about this com because it SHOULD be amazing and I love the route you take with your overhauls for all the issues I have with the coms for maya I know that with some tuning they can be amazing but having the slayer of tera com aka your teras combo pack com be a mediocre one feels underwhelming
I want to finish by saying I mean no ill will with anything I have said here I love this mod I love your work the weapons the characters everything is so much fun my glitches could very much be a ME problem and I try my best to fix them but this coms I can't fix I can give suggestions but I know your well into dev with krieg and whatever is to come next mayas only gripes are her blue tree being lack luster and her coms two legendary ones speccing for a skill that doesn't deserve the attention of two legendary coms and one failing to compete with a blue tina com I love your work I hope you don't block me from posting here and I can't wait to try other characters to OP 8 with this mod you have my endorsement and I adore your dedication and I apologise for the light novel the publications from kindle will be coming soon lol keep up the great work icecream and hopefully you don't nerf eridium sanction and require me to get ice cream to cry with lol. <3
-> this one is very weird, idk if i's a bug or the game itself causing it. Even after using a better formular for COMs bonus, it can sometimes still happen.
For the rest, I'll look into them. Please do note that I did a bunch of nerf once Krieg was released. That might contribute to all the mediocre performance of all COMs you have got so far. I will slowly improve them again to make sure they will perform better. Thanks for your light novel of words! Keep them coming.
During the arena fight in the torge dlc the end of level chest that puts you to sleep will crash it works fine with the mod entirely disabled however with the mod enabled crashes every time I believe this has something to do with the disabling of cloud kills fog particle as it uses the same effect I could be wrong but I believe this is the main problem (I am also playing maya) I have not tested whether or not re enabling cloud kills particles will fix the issue but might be worth a look.
I tried disabling my imported mods (same thing I did with vault of the warrior) this didn't work same crash I ran the mission mod turned off (UVHM hurts when you didn't bring slag lol) and it worked fine this again could entirely be a ME problem and I hate to be complaining about the mod I'm honestly having a great time I just want to report any issues I find as I said it might be a me problem I do run SDK mods along side any text mods but like I said I only turned off war machine and that fixed it if anyone else can reproduce the issue feel free to let me know.
EDIT: I'm editing again lol I went into blcmm and re enabled cloud kill particles and no crash at all
TLDR : If you crash in the Torge DLC arena or furnace area its because mayas cloud kill particles are DISABLED by default to fix issue for yourself go into blcmm - tab 2 vault hunter changes - maya the siren goddess - skill changes cataclysm - cloud kill v1 - and make sure "Completely remove smoke particle" is not ticked no word on remove sound but maybe to play it safe do the same.
Not a complaint or bug this time but a feature request ? or something along those lines
The rough rider shield + relic of war unfortunately doesn't allow you to use the rough rider as a shield (I know thats not its purpose) however it would be really cool if you could combine the pair together I mean the relic in comparison to main shields isn't the biggest shield so combining it with the RR wouldn't be over powered (I think) not sure how that would work perhaps adding a recharge delay to the RR maybe ?
Thanks again for this amazing work and apologies for the amount of posts I've been making on here I know your busy so hopefully they aren't too infuriating to deal with lol.
EDIT: 1 sorry for posting here then finding solutions to my problems and wasting your time lol
2 I found the issue and its one people should know about THE MOD ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH NO WASTED COMS not angry caps just making it obvious I took a shot in the dark to see if that was the issue and yes it was your edits to the coms in the game don't apply to no wasted coms so it can't figure out what to drop in place so only drops base game leg siren coms instead ashame but better to know.
TLDR : This mod is not compatible with the no wasted coms mod if you use NWC you will not get custom com drops for the overhauled characters from any source.
I can't load into the vault of the warrior with this mod enabled not clue as to why I can load in without it enabled but the moment I enable WM.TXT the loading screen is infinite not frozen as the gun still spins and the hints change but never loads into it the vault I left it to try and load for over half an hour lol I tried fresh installing the patch that didn't seem to work and I tried steam file verify that didn't work either for the record its TVHM not normal mode I didn't have this issue on normal mode I will do some more digging in my own time entirely possible I caused this issue (I'm not the brightest spark) but if anyone else has had this issue and has a solution I would truly appreciate any advice.
EDIT : weird but ANOTHER fresh install of the mod worked but the moment I import ANY mod into WM it broke and I mean anything MCOP loot midget world hell even no more orders I have to disable every imported mod that isn't WM base code in order to go into vault of the warrior ( with any mods I import I try to make sure there are no conflicts disable things in them that conflict and if a mod is dependant on a conflict I remove it everything was white no conflicts in blcmm so I really have no clue whats going on)
It's in 5. Gameplay rework -> enemy rework -> mini bosses -> base game -> warrior
PS I've seen gameplay and it looks unreal to any mod I've played before and I've played a lot of bl2 mods listening them here would be a paragraph n a half but I'm interested to try yours I didn't really pay attention to it at first (apologies) as I thought it was just another axton rework and then I saw everything else and well I can entirely say I was incorrect lol.
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