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Read this guide to set up a FROST load order properly!
Before you post something here
1. Please read the description and check out the article section before commenting.
2. If you still have questions, head over to the FROST Discord for further help.
3. If you want to report a technical issue, please post your load order as a link to Pastebin or visit the FROST Discord and post the problem there.
4. Before reporting a bug, a crash, or asking us to check your load order, use the Automatic Load Order Checker first!
5. Keep the posts section free of spoilers or use Nexus' spoiler tag system.
Note about the "Next Gen" Update
FROST only works properly with the downgraded version of Fallout 4, for the following reasons:
You can also use the profile or instance feature of your mod manager to set up two independent mod setups, one for FROST and one for another Fallout 4 setup. Requirement for that is that both setups need to work with downgraded versions of F4.
Thanks for the quick reply btw :)
This may seem like a counteractive suggestion to the Frost mod, but could it be possible to make an addition to Frost where you side with the US Army Remnants or even have an option to start as a US Army Remnant soldier and have radiant quests where you try help the people of the commonwealth such as delivering food and supplies to certain survivor compounds which would in turn ally with you and not shoot you on site? Just to give the faction more life as more than just an enemy. Or even start off as a Metro Alliance soldier who is helping in the fight against the Metro Federation. I would love there to be actual quest lines for these factions. I would love to see more interaction in terms of voice dialogue of these other factions. Maybe some romance with secret npcs in there. Frost is a cold world but we need some warmth to make it through those insufferable days. Someone made a Frost mod which you can side with different factions which is why I made this suggestion. Of course there is no dialogue with the other factions but It did pique my interest. Maybe this is not what you intended for the mod. Most likely you wanted it to be a hostile environment. Well it's just something to have in the back of your mind. Thank you for taking the time to read this long post.
The focus of FROST was always to be a freeform survival mod, with additional storytelling and worldbuilding through notes/journals and visual elements that you have to piece together. The focus was never on voice-acted NPCs, quests, etc.
FROST Plus adds a few quests and voiced NPCs, but doing stuff like that is very time consuming, and we stopped working on adding new features to FROST (we only do bugfixes now).
FROST is set 200 years before the vanilla game, and Wastelander Barb and Heather have both been designed with the vanilla time setting in mind.
Additionally, both have scripts and quests that require vanilla content to be present that has been deactivated or removed in FROST.
So no, you can't add them without encountering issues.
F4 GOTY costs 10 dollars/euros on Steam every few months (when its on sale). Usually every 6-8 weeks. It doesn't get cheaper than that.
It would be way to much work for us to offer butchered versions of FROST for a small target player base.
FROST also doesn't get most of its charm just from the worldspace changes and the quests, it gets it from all of its parts.
F4 is on GOG on sale sometimes, and you might be able to grab the F4 GOTY on it for 10 bucks. That way you can install F4 two time, one downgraded and one next-gen version.
Additionally, you would have to edit multiple esp files that depend on each other, and things could easily break left and right.
It is not worth the effort.
Keep in mind that if you are not allowed to publish and upload any modified versions of FROST.
So even if you decide to put in all the insane amount of work, you would be the only person to be able to play this modified version of FROST.
I won't answer further questions about this topic, because it is simple not a feasible thing to do.
You should just downgrade your game after your current playthrough.
If you are referring to the requirements and the stuff in the Below Zero guide: That stuff has nothing to do with FROST. 90% of the guide is basically only about how to set up a modern base setup for Fallout 4 and how to sort your load order correctly. If you are not using stuff like Buffout 4, not sorting your load order correctly, and are overwhelmed by having to manually extract two files, you are not doing (manual) modding right.
I got tired of people reporting "bugs" over at the bug section here that were not caused by FROST, but by people messing up their setups, using incompatible mods, reporting vanilla bugs or bugs from other mods, etc.
Since the creation of the Below Zero guide, those bug reports went down massively while download numbers stayed stable.
The only more "efficient way" would be to make a Nexus Collection or Wabbajack. Those have existed in the past for FROST, but people usually didn't maintain them or they were broken (because people ignored the BZ guide and basic F4 modding practices). Be the change you want to see in the world, sureshot5864.
The Below Zero guide is based on the most popular manual modding guide for Fallout 4 (The Midnight Ride).
Anyways, thx again, this is one of the best mod I ever tried for FO4 :)
You will experience severe FPS issues and probably some broken locations. Additionally none of the FROST mods have been properly updated and patched, it is very likely that you game won't start or CTD randomly. Additionally you would need to use the CC content that comes with the NG update, which is neither patched or balanced for FROSTBefore you ask: No, there are no plans to update FROST for the NG version, and no, there is no simple way to do that yourself.
Do not use the NG version of F4 if you want to play FROST.
Wish me luck xDDD
If you want to have two instances of Fallout 4:
You can buy the game two times: one time for GOG and one time on Steam. This allows you to have two instances of the game. The GOG version doesn't need to be downgraded.
Keep in mind though that the simplest solution is just to use the downgraded steam version. Downgrading is explained in the Below Zero guide, and it is very simple: Extract a zip file, click on an .exe, and you are done. You don't need to be an expert modder.
The downgraded version is also compatible with almost all mods, and for the few F4SE-based mods with .dll files there are often two versions (one for NG, one for pre-NG) or often only for pre-NG. Downgrading is really really simple, don't let it scare you in any way. You will sometimes have more trouble using the NG version if you want to have a stable modded setup.
In any case, I found a way to manage two instances of the game thx to the MO2 discord (they are such nice people) by having one NewGen and one OldGen bootable at the same time :D and it works, so now I´m gonna set up a modlist for FROST
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