So you took the freedom to modify his work without his authorization or knowledge, uploaded it on his mod page, and when he rightfully bans you, you play the victim and spin the narrative to make him pass as the bad guy? And now, you literally stole his work to make a similar mod, just adding one difference so you can say that "it isn't the same thing".
@Magickingdom agreed, saying its stolen without even looking at the mod would be like me saying his "Settle Everywhere" mod is clearly stolen from the "Fallout 76 C.A.M.P." mod, with him only making the c.a.m.p. invisible and changing the deployment method from a mine to a gun.
Are you serious here? I AM the troll? The mod use a Ba2 file, which is rather weird for a file so small, which is the exact same format used by the other mod. I don't say it's a proof, but it's fishy at best. Calling me a troll and "trigger happy" is rather funny.
The guy post in his description a message clearly showing he is salty about having been (rightfully so) by the original author of the mod he, I say it again, modified and uploaded without the consent or prior knowledge from the author, which is plain wrong. The guy could have modified the file for his personal use, but no, he was pretentious enough to think his version would be better than the original one and tried to impose it.
So, after being banned, and being clearly angered and obviously clueless about why he was banned, he made a copy of the original mod and uploaded it out of spite for the original author. Him posting the message explaining the whole situation is further proving he is mad at the original author.
If not, first, he would not have taken the time to recreate the mod, or modifying the original, which I'm sure he did: I am 99% certain that if I take the two mods, and compare them (And in fact I will), they are identical, nor he would have posted the feud he had with the original author, in a message who is blatantly trying to spin the narrative and make himself pass as the victim. Which proves as I said, that he is mad at the original author, but also that he has an inflated ego who can't stand that he is the villain, and in the same time, this message is a poor attempt at justifying his theft because deep down, he knows he is wrong.
So no, don't call me troll or "trigger happy" because I am calling out an open thief.
agreed, saying its stolen without even looking at the mod would be like me saying his "Settle Everywhere" mod is clearly stolen from the "Fallout 76 C.A.M.P." mod, with him only making the c.a.m.p. invisible and changing the deployment method from a mine to a gun.
Aaaaaand we have the winner for the most idiotic argument ever. The fact you got on my profile in the hopes of finding something to argue is showing you don't even understand the subject, so do yourself a favor and don't talk.
My mod can't be stolen from Fallout 76 Camp for several reasons, the first being that the initial version of my mod predates Fallout 76 camp by two years, the published file is an alternative version I made without the pre-requisite esm I also made for my own exclusive version to run smoother. Second, and most important reason in fact: I haven't made the mod out of spite for the author of F76 camp, nor I downloaded it, nor I even knew it's existence beforehand. I haven't been involved in a dispute with the author (although I probably know him since most of the mods I use are made by several big names here and I regularly discover that some of the mods I use are made by the same author).
So as I said, instead of going on my profile in the desperate attempt to get some ammo you won't find, quit talking altogether, you won't make yourself look ridiculous longer.
hmmm, seems rather angry about things. may i point out, how am i to know any of that? I can't see when you make something, only when you publish it. I can't see whether you downloaded it or not, if you had an issue with the author or not, or what you knew of its existence. you could have had a massive dispute with the author in DM's or deleted posts, and i could never know. you called my argument idiotic, but everything you said are things i could not have known, or can know are actually true.
But you are just assuming things you don't know just for advance your argument, which is peak dishonesty. And no, I am not angry. I love that argument it's always the same used by people who have nothing to answer: "oh but you are angry, don't be angry, why are you so angry?" And again, it's not about me, so talking about my mods are irrelevant in the matter which is again a manner of deflecting from the real matter. I am currently trying to compare the two mods, and I already found several weird similarities, notably the category of the file used: a Ba2 file is a weird choice for a mod so small, but when you see the original author also used a Ba2 file, it's rather strange. Or the strange similitude between the in game model used for the item; or the message who is popping in the middle of the screen when you use that item, telling you that your perks are now being under the process of being reset, and asking you to not using the perk menu until it is done. Of course, while rather curious to say the least, these don't constitute an irrefutable proof of theft, so I am currently looking the core of the mod, notably the scripts used by both of them.
Are you serious? This mod is made from scratch. you even extract ba2 files to check what's in there before accusing me? come on The similarities between two mods are there because it's for those people who don't like the f-bombs you idiot. They are supposed to function similarly.
Do you think I'm that incompetent? I have been making mods for like 5 years already, since Skyrim. Papyrus scripting is nothing new to me. This mod even reset SPECIAL stats and that one doesn't. You just don't know what you are talking about.
The point of making this (one you want to hear, I know) was to show that I can live without Ish's mods. I know I was wrong and he has the right to ban me since he is the owner of the files, but I'll never agree that instant banning on his page and his chat, saying I'm extremely disrespectful just because I did a modification to his file (That still require players to download the original files for it to work, and his name is still there.) for several players that want it is something someone should do. Let's say a guest comes in your room. He moves something in the room a little the way he likes. You'll just kick him out right there and cut contact with him forever? I know Nexus has strict rules about permission and allow author to simply ban people without moderators involvement, but that and morality are two separate things. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
@Clanggedin I hope you're happy getting this mod under review and almost removed for no reason. I had to provide proofs to the moderators to get this back up.
I also told them the whole situation and he/she suggested that I block him, so I did that. Congrats on being my first ban in 5 years, and RIP no one will miss you.
EDIT: Pinned for the funniest comment in 2019. You want attention? You get it.
The description says the item costs 1 Glowing Blood Pack, but it actually costs 2. Furthermore, nowhere did the download page say I needed Chemist 2 to craft it - needless to say, I didn't pick that perk.
Feedback aside, you are 112% in the wrong in the little story you describe, and even putting that story in just makes you a massive dick. You had a fight with someone, take your licks and move on. This is the equivalent of running up and down the street screaming at anyone who will listen that someone called the cops on you for taking a s#*! in their punch bowl.
Do you know the whole story, not trying to be rude but the pinned chain of comments isn't it? 👀 I'll do a short type-up anyway just to kind of clear the story and talk about my stance on this looking back now, alright so I'll be as honest as possible since I think that's better than just letting something that represents how I and people involved are kind of fade away with time.
What happened was that I took a mod that contributes/cultivates a culture I think is problematic (excessive swearing and being insensitive etc.) and made an edit to remove that. I have admitted that this violates the site rules which is fair, I just don't think it is immoral because people should be (forced or encouraged to be) trusting and sharing to everyone, and to not contribute to cultures or anything that indirectly hurt others directly or their feelings, even if it's against their will. The thing is if you let being a good selfless person a personal choice, many people just wouldn't choose that. It's also arguable that expecting people to just let you take their stuff and be selfless does more harm than good in the current day and age, but I won't argue about/for that here.
I remember having posted my mod in the comments of the original mod as well. That could come across as rude to the author I imagine(?) though I think it also serves to tell the author that their mod is probably hurting/offending/bothering people. (There were other comments talking about it) Of course, they can just not care because it's their mod, I just think as a creator and a human being you have the responsibility to make something that won't hurt people, or try to do that at least.
Then after that, I made a mod that do the same thing out of spite (which is childish and bad) and got falsely accused for using their scripts/assets. I was quite angry at getting falsely accused, so if you disagree with me making a patch for another author's mod, I think at least me being mad at a false accusation isn't entirely wrong. How I expressed it though could have been better.
So, since I'm here again in 2023, I'll apologize for how I took/handled the situation and how it might have caused some people to feel bad or bitter, how I should have been more understanding. So while I feel bad for people affected from what I've done and said, at the same time I will not apologize for my moral stance on this, so the takeaway for me at least, is that I'll go about doing what (I think) is right through less direct and confrontational ways so it's more compatible with other people opinions and stances. For example: I can try to be an example as my mods have always has open permissions I think.
I ended up with one extra perk point after the process (i just needed to reset nuclear physicist to fix its interaction with the repair bobblehead, and since im playing survival this mod was the fastest way to do that). Any idea why i have this extra perk? I havent picked any SPECIAL bobblehead in my game.
Can you not just put the code of the item so I can spawn it using commands? I now must go and level up to get the chemist perk just so I can craft that damn thing... it's just more work for a mod that is supposed to ease your life
Someone copied my mod. It's really just a bat file. Who cares? I only shared it to help whoever might want it, not to try to be famous. Some people get butt hurt way too easily.
My mod; https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/43749 (copy at will) The other one; https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/46160?tab=description
He adds 100 of each type of food. I do 20. So it's different I suppose. But why be mad at him even if he did copy, which I'm not sure he didn't think of it on his own, just later?
I am not a smart man, I do not know how to find the console command for the mod to get around the chemistry perk. I would have to go for 4 more levels otherwise to get there. Can I get the console command please?
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JumpAnd now, you literally stole his work to make a similar mod, just adding one difference so you can say that "it isn't the same thing".
You seem to be rather trigger happy. Have you looked at the.esp files and can prove it is a copy?
troll on
agreed, saying its stolen without even looking at the mod would be like me saying his "Settle Everywhere" mod is clearly stolen from the "Fallout 76 C.A.M.P." mod, with him only making the c.a.m.p. invisible and changing the deployment method from a mine to a gun.
Calling me a troll and "trigger happy" is rather funny.
The guy post in his description a message clearly showing he is salty about having been (rightfully so) by the original author of the mod he, I say it again, modified and uploaded without the consent or prior knowledge from the author, which is plain wrong. The guy could have modified the file for his personal use, but no, he was pretentious enough to think his version would be better than the original one and tried to impose it.
So, after being banned, and being clearly angered and obviously clueless about why he was banned, he made a copy of the original mod and uploaded it out of spite for the original author.
Him posting the message explaining the whole situation is further proving he is mad at the original author.
If not, first, he would not have taken the time to recreate the mod, or modifying the original, which I'm sure he did: I am 99% certain that if I take the two mods, and compare them (And in fact I will), they are identical, nor he would have posted the feud he had with the original author, in a message who is blatantly trying to spin the narrative and make himself pass as the victim.
Which proves as I said, that he is mad at the original author, but also that he has an inflated ego who can't stand that he is the villain, and in the same time, this message is a poor attempt at justifying his theft because deep down, he knows he is wrong.
So no, don't call me troll or "trigger happy" because I am calling out an open thief.
Aaaaaand we have the winner for the most idiotic argument ever. The fact you got on my profile in the hopes of finding something to argue is showing you don't even understand the subject, so do yourself a favor and don't talk.
My mod can't be stolen from Fallout 76 Camp for several reasons, the first being that the initial version of my mod predates Fallout 76 camp by two years, the published file is an alternative version I made without the pre-requisite esm I also made for my own exclusive version to run smoother.
Second, and most important reason in fact: I haven't made the mod out of spite for the author of F76 camp, nor I downloaded it, nor I even knew it's existence beforehand. I haven't been involved in a dispute with the author (although I probably know him since most of the mods I use are made by several big names here and I regularly discover that some of the mods I use are made by the same author).
So as I said, instead of going on my profile in the desperate attempt to get some ammo you won't find, quit talking altogether, you won't make yourself look ridiculous longer.
I can't see when you make something, only when you publish it. I can't see whether you downloaded it or not, if you had an issue with the author or not, or what you knew of its existence. you could have had a massive dispute with the author in DM's or deleted posts, and i could never know.
you called my argument idiotic, but everything you said are things i could not have known, or can know are actually true.
And no, I am not angry. I love that argument it's always the same used by people who have nothing to answer: "oh but you are angry, don't be angry, why are you so angry?"
And again, it's not about me, so talking about my mods are irrelevant in the matter which is again a manner of deflecting from the real matter.
I am currently trying to compare the two mods, and I already found several weird similarities, notably the category of the file used: a Ba2 file is a weird choice for a mod so small, but when you see the original author also used a Ba2 file, it's rather strange. Or the strange similitude between the in game model used for the item; or the message who is popping in the middle of the screen when you use that item, telling you that your perks are now being under the process of being reset, and asking you to not using the perk menu until it is done.
Of course, while rather curious to say the least, these don't constitute an irrefutable proof of theft, so I am currently looking the core of the mod, notably the scripts used by both of them.
The similarities between two mods are there because it's for those people who don't like the f-bombs you idiot. They are supposed to function similarly.
Do you think I'm that incompetent? I have been making mods for like 5 years already, since Skyrim. Papyrus scripting is nothing new to me.
This mod even reset SPECIAL stats and that one doesn't. You just don't know what you are talking about.
The point of making this (one you want to hear, I know) was to show that I can live without Ish's mods.
I know I was wrong and he has the right to ban me since he is the owner of the files, but I'll never agree that instant banning on his page and his chat, saying I'm extremely disrespectful just because I did a modification to his file (That still require players to download the original files for it to work, and his name is still there.) for several players that want it is something someone should do.
Let's say a guest comes in your room. He moves something in the room a little the way he likes. You'll just kick him out right there and cut contact with him forever?
I know Nexus has strict rules about permission and allow author to simply ban people without moderators involvement, but that and morality are two separate things. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
I also told them the whole situation and he/she suggested that I block him, so I did that. Congrats on being my first ban in 5 years, and RIP no one will miss you.
EDIT: Pinned for the funniest comment in 2019. You want attention? You get it.
Feedback aside, you are 112% in the wrong in the little story you describe, and even putting that story in just makes you a massive dick.
You had a fight with someone, take your licks and move on. This is the equivalent of running up and down the street screaming at anyone who will listen that someone called the cops on you for taking a s#*! in their punch bowl.
I'll do a short type-up anyway just to kind of clear the story and talk about my stance on this looking back now, alright so I'll be as honest as possible since I think that's better than just letting something that represents how I and people involved are kind of fade away with time.
What happened was that I took a mod that contributes/cultivates a culture I think is problematic (excessive swearing and being insensitive etc.) and made an edit to remove that. I have admitted that this violates the site rules which is fair, I just don't think it is immoral because people should be (forced or encouraged to be) trusting and sharing to everyone, and to not contribute to cultures or anything that indirectly hurt others directly or their feelings, even if it's against their will. The thing is if you let being a good selfless person a personal choice, many people just wouldn't choose that.
It's also arguable that expecting people to just let you take their stuff and be selfless does more harm than good in the current day and age, but I won't argue about/for that here.
I remember having posted my mod in the comments of the original mod as well. That could come across as rude to the author I imagine(?) though I think it also serves to tell the author that their mod is probably hurting/offending/bothering people. (There were other comments talking about it) Of course, they can just not care because it's their mod, I just think as a creator and a human being you have the responsibility to make something that won't hurt people, or try to do that at least.
Then after that, I made a mod that do the same thing out of spite (which is childish and bad) and got falsely accused for using their scripts/assets. I was quite angry at getting falsely accused, so if you disagree with me making a patch for another author's mod, I think at least me being mad at a false accusation isn't entirely wrong. How I expressed it though could have been better.
So, since I'm here again in 2023, I'll apologize for how I took/handled the situation and how it might have caused some people to feel bad or bitter, how I should have been more understanding. So while I feel bad for people affected from what I've done and said, at the same time I will not apologize for my moral stance on this, so the takeaway for me at least, is that I'll go about doing what (I think) is right through less direct and confrontational ways so it's more compatible with other people opinions and stances.
For example: I can try to be an example as my mods have always has open permissions I think.
They did not.
Tbh not a biggie.
Thank you for this.
My mod; https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/43749 (copy at will)
The other one; https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/46160?tab=description
He adds 100 of each type of food. I do 20. So it's different I suppose. But why be mad at him even if he did copy, which I'm not sure he didn't think of it on his own, just later?
More options for people is a good thing.
Gonna download any of the other alternatives.
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