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  1. Knightmare987
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    This mod is just what I've been looking for! 

    If only there were a way to change jamming chance based on different crafted gun mods. Or a brand new "mod" called maintenance. 
    Would feel so satisfying to fix up an old gun you just looted.

    EDIT: My bad this mod actually does exactly this. You can customize jamming chance based on gun mods. This is brilliant.
  2. jahincatalan
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    Is that a framework that people actually want? Bringing back Far Cry 2 basically? What's next Malaria pills ? 
    1. VaLightningThief
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      Immersion
    2. Wrextasy
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      I generally love weapon jamming and such. 
      Weapon maintenance is great for games with hardcore functions, as it adds immersion to a game.
    3. PrecisionTacos
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      Malaria pills would be kinda cool tbh. Leave my boy alone, he's done some good work here.
    4. Treyman1115
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      ngl I liked the malaria mechanic and jamming
    5. jahincatalan
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      Okay. Okay. Immersion? I will leave you to it. In that case just bring back FO3's mashing the same weapon together to make the gun condition pristine. Although that would require a new perk on the Perk tree. 
    6. GrankNutt4
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      @jahincatalan hell yeah, who would ever want to bring back the best game mechanics from the series, right? Its about shooting and bruh'ing all day long. The most important thing in life anyway is to be pumped, jacked, ripped, schwagged. That way you can stunt on 'em, stack 'em bricks! Pop Pop Glocc glocc na'msayin

      You fucking....
    7. GalnextDoor
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      You want perfectly functioning weapons, 200 years after a nuclear holocaust? That goes against logic. But hey since you wanna bring up far cry 2. I bet you're the kind of tacti-cool military guy who makes mil-sim girls with modern warfare weapons :)
    8. The6thMessenger
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      Dude, I hate the immersion nuts, and the gun-snobs myself. But you can have both something immersive, and a gameplay-focused mechanic. 

      Along with Burst-Fire Framework, Jam Framework is also a mechanic I use in my main mod Weapons Overhaul Redux, I simply thought to share if people might find use for it as well. Weapon unreliability is a good deterrent and drawback to prompt players to use something better. That is why Jamming was introduced with Dirty Rounds and Pipe-Gun.
    9. Lavire21
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      So, I think it was less so "jamming the weapon together" and more so utilizing parts from similar weapons to repair the weapon you wanted. They didn't have the budget to make a good repair system but I believe that was the way it was intended for use. 
    10. Sranger
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      It's a good mod idea t6m, keep it up! Personally i hate comments like from jahincatalan, no one is forcing you to use these mods. Asking if someone actually wants a free mod is probably the most entitled and stupid thing to say.
    11. JBianculli
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       hell yeah, who would ever want to bring back the best game mechanics from the series, right? Its about shooting and bruh'ing all day long. The most important thing in life anyway is to be pumped, jacked, ripped, schwagged. That way you can stunt on 'em, stack 'em bricks! Pop Pop Glocc glocc na'msayin

      You fucking....
       
      This is the comment
    12. aristidetorchia717
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      Some people, like yourself, enjoy big jiggly boobs and exaggerated oiled butts in their Post Nuclear Fantasies. Others enjoy weapon jamming mechanics, however setting-inappropriate it may seem.
    13. fraquar
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      To answer the original question?   Yes.
      Weapon jamming is literally the only balancing mechanic in a world with Revolvers, Levers and mag fed weapons.
      Without it, there is no point to really having the former in your game - just play it like Tarkov and be done with it.

      Fallout isn't Tarkov though - if you have a mag fed weapon in 2278 you probably have to make your own mag springs.    Show of hands of those that actually can do that in real life today?......
  3. IzakiReemsi28
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    One years too late, oh well.

    Tbh this Weapon Jam mod, combined with your Weapon Degradation mod, would provide excellent immersion. The lower the condition of your weapon, the more likely it is to jam. 
    1. The6thMessenger
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      I honestly wouldn't use this mod personally, as it has problems like switching away from the weapon.
  4. gpthree
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    Is there a technical reason why you've omitted it from working in VATS? Is it safe to remove that condition?
    1. The6thMessenger
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      VATs is a pre-determined action.

      I excluded it, just as the burst-fire force-idle is not working with vats.
    2. Easiest way to circumvent this problem is to download a mod that keeps you from using vats period.
  5. Litespeed111
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    What's the recommended LO spot? I'm On xbox but don't let that complicated anyone's answer, just curious because I'm having CTDS with this mod and can't figure out why .-.
  6. JBianculli
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    You're a magician. Your powers of math-ing and code are beyond my humble mind. People will sing your name in the great halls for many years to come
    1. The6thMessenger
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      Thanks. :)
  7. Crylec
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    Basically I want to make the game worst for myself...this is good
    1. JBianculli
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      That is most of my gameplay modding. Lol
  8. GrankNutt4
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    The only weapons that just won't work with this mod are the ones from the "Combined Arms" and "Combined Arms Expansion". I've done 4 tests, all firing over a thousand rounds per test. Nothing, and they should be jamming after about 350 at the absolute max. And of course i made sure to test the weapons that the keyword works on during the same tests, all is fine.
    1. The6thMessenger
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      Well sorry, they might be using different Idles.
    2. GrankNutt4
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      oh no, please don't misunderstand. I have already incorporated that very fact into my game where they are "End Game weapons" because of it :)
      thank you again for this very smart and easy to patch take on weapon jamming mechanics. Its wonderful.
  9. yoyoma3010
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    Does the weapon jamming occur when NPCs use the weapons, or only for the player?
    1. The6thMessenger
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      Maybe it does. The Burst-Fire works with them.
    2. CSEPteam
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      from my testing yes it does
    3. GrankNutt4
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      Awesome, and almost a little amazing that it has not hit my performance in any noticeable way despite that.. Can't be every npc, right? Has to be companions and player only. I've got quite a few npcs spwaning, most using weapons that i have patched in, and i can't notice a different in fps
      will have to put that to the test
    4. CSEPteam
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      I was testing based on my mod that adds weapons to raider level lists and fighting raiders and I saw them reloading alot more often then they should so yeah it must effect them
    5. dpsampson
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      This is painting a hilarious picture in my head of comical gunfights with everybody going "SHIIIIT" every now and then while trying to fix their jammed guns!   x'D

      It's like nobody can fire 'cause their guns are too crappy, so they just throw them at each other.
  10. pietrosegni03
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    do i have to add the esp as master to another mod in order to apply the effect?because i tried a couple of times and it dosen't let me do it
    1. The6thMessenger
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      Not necessarily, no. It's just a bit of script on the MGEF, so long as you can reference it, and it's a matter of using an ENCH of your own. You can break apart the BA2 if you want to get the script and upload it on your own.