Shadow Dress - 30/30/15/0 - 550 gold Cavalorn gives you this armor if you give him 1 stalk of swampweed.
Shadow Armor - 45/45/20/5 - 900 gold Give Cavalorn's letter to Vatras, then go back to Cavalorn, ask him: what about me?
Light Guard Armor - 60/60/40/10 - 1050 gold Harad forges you this armor if you have 5 raw steel. You can buy that at Hakon or at any smith.
Medium Guard Armor - 80/80/50/25 - 1500 gold Cassia gives you this armor after you pass the test and give her Constantino's ring.
Ancient Shadow Armor - 100/100/70/50 - 6250 gold Saturas gives you at Jharkendar this armor if you have 2 stalks of swampweed at you.
Shadow Baron Armor - 120/120/85/65 - 12500 gold Cavalorn gives you this armor if you kill Raven and give him a stalk of swampweed. ( You need to have the Ancient Shadow Armor at you. )
Black Shadow Armor - 137/133/102/106 - 17550 gold Bennet forges this armor for 4 black ores after you passed into chapter 4 and reported to Garond you are back. ( You must have the Shadow Baron Armor with you of course. )
Spoiler - Black Ores: 1- In a cage next to the Orlan's Tavern, right of the teleporter, guarded by 3 zombies. 2- Not far from that you can find the Inubis crypt near Onar's farm. 3- The third is at Gap in the rock in the Jarkendar canyon, left side to the library, behind the wolves. 4 -Beat the Fire Dragon, you can find a black ore at its treasure. 5 -Go to the old Xardas tower in the Valley of Mines, reach the top. 6- At the platform next to the Guardians of the Dead, few steps from the x-point.
Ancient Shadow Baron Armor - 155/155/120/115 - 28500 gold Saturas gives you this armor after you report him you killed all of the dragons ( in the valley if mines ).
Thank you for your answer. Great mod, but I would change two armors to obtain for better balance. Light Guard Armor is forged by Harad after bringing him orc weapons. Medium Guard Armor is given to Cassia after receiving Constantino's ring, but in the first chapter, because in the second chapter in Jharkendar we receive armor from Saturas.
Thank you for this mod! The dialogue lines are funny.
My game crashes when turning on the 'ancient shadow armor', which is received in chapter 2 by saturas. Tried it in 2 mods (VarusBiker 1.4b and Respawnmod Enhanced [which includes the Minimod Balance]), both crashed when trying to equip it. Didn't save the error-message though.
2.5 of your Ninja-Patch and Ninja 2.7.12 . I have over a dozen Union-patches and Union-plugins as well as several other ninja-patches installed. What's so special about the ancient shadow armor? Some special script attached to it?
edit: Just for clarification of wordings: The inventor of Ninja prefered to call all ninja-based stuff a 'ninja-patch', since 'mods' were initially modifications for Gothic 1/2, which could only be played separately. But the ninja-based stuff can be added and removed anytime at any game (and most mods). But I am also used to call the stuff on nexusmods only 'mods'. Just called your mod in the beginning of this comment a 'ninja-patch' and wanted to clarify this in this edit here.
edit2: Saw you have more than 1 texture for the ancient shadow armor. Maybe there's something wrong converted/packed/whatever.
edit3: I suggest you put the comment with the list of armors and how they can be obtained either in a spoiler in the description, or simply make the comment 'sticky' via clicking on the button in the upper right corner of the comment.
It seems like a mod conflict to me, i don't think the textures can cause issues... ... and no, nothing special script or something for that armor... Thank you for the suggestion considering the armor spoiler, i made it sticky.
Thank you for your answer . I would ask you to make a detailed list of receiving armor as in your second mod. As for the mod, the MOD is great. But why didn't Cassia give me the armor? Thank you for your work, I will recommend your mods.
So yeah, i think it's way better now... You need to go back to Cavalorn after you gave his letter to Vatras, he gives you the Shadow Armor. Enter Chapter 2, go to Harad who will forge you the Guard Armor and the Shadow Blade, so better to stay at the city and don't go back to the valley...
After a bit of playing the way the ore baron armors are implemented really breaks the balance. I would move the regular Ore Baron Armor to chapter 2/3 and the ancient one to the 4th chapter and make them more expensive. that's only my opinion though, I understand that it's an optional mod that doesn't have to follow original game balance. Good work regardless :)
Okay, i know... Considering the Ancient Shadow Armor looks cool, but not too protective, i thought that Cavalorn give you that in Chapter 3's beginning... then you reach Jharkendar, Saturas gives you the Baron armor, the normal one ( i will bring it into my mod ). After you kill Raven, he gives you the Gomez-kind Baron armor, what you reforge at Harad. At Chapter 4 go Huno with Black Ores, and he will reforge again the armor with black ore, making something epic weapon too :).
So hello again, i am here! :D I played again with my mod, and i don't see the problem with the Shadow Baron armor. Again, it's almost similar to Knight and Light Dragon Hunter armors, so no, for me it doesn't break the balance... the biggest problem is the Guard armors have no role. You can easily finish the chapter 2 without using them, then you get pro armor. And yes, for me the Knight armor and the Dragon Hunter armor is pro armor too, so yeah... need to work on the story a little...
Hello, i have a suggestion if you dont mind Could you make Cavalorn give you the light shadow armor when you first meet him? It would make more sense since he had that armor in Gothic 1 and now he has the Ring of Water armor, so he doesnt need his old shadow armor anymore. You could make somebody else give you the normal shadow armor, for example Diego, or make Cavalorn give it to you after talking to lord Hagen or something like that.
hello, yes.... i already thought about Cavalorn gives you the light shadow armor :) also i want to add all the shadow and guard armors. But the thing is the bandits wear the shadow and guards armors in G2, thats why i thought i change them to blue, which is not surely fortunate...
It's a bit chaotic in G2.... Diego noted as convict, ok, but he wears "bandit" armor, and nobody attacks him, while example Fisk is 100% bandit... Not to mention that most of the bandits wear Leather armor, and you can shine around in that armor and nobody attacks you....
I dont think that it should be an issue, since you can wear the heavy guard outfit (now called Armor of Ravens guards) and nobody seems to care, i changed the textures to red ones in my game anyway. if you want to though you could try using the black guard armor textures from the Dark mysteries mod, i dont think that would create a problem.
Yes... i was thinking about to "patch" the game, and changing the bandits leather armor to something else, example to light bandit armor, but it's too many work, because it depends on the npcs they are bandit or no, not the armor - i mean, the bandits wear the same leather armor like you. So i won't touch the game that much, i keep the armors in red then. I have a plan btw: Cavalorn -> light shadow armor, Dexter -> shadow armor, then you can go to Harad to reforge and get the shadow sword, then go Diego get a light guard armor, and at the bandit camp you can get normal guard.
yeah, dont change the existing armors, i dont think that is a good idea. you could try to give some of them shadow armors but that is too much work indeed. That plan sounds great, but i would change one thing: it doesnt make much sense for Dexter to give you armor since he wants to kill you, i would add the armor to a chest somewhere in his camp if that is possible.
Well. before you find that out you could try implementing the armor in a different way as a placeholder. Maybe have Engor in the castle give it to you?
Hmm... i think it's not a good idea that a person who already sells an armors give you a shadow armor, but... i can add to Dexter's inventory the armor, so if you kill him, you can grab it from him. Sadly the inventories and chests are not in scripts, but with scripts you can add anything to inventories.
Well, i thought of it as he can give you the shadow armor for free and sell you the heavy militia armor since it is better. But the idea of adding it to Dexters inventory sounds good.
Ok... So that looting Dexter thing is not so good idea. The script doubles the inventory, also adds Diego's armor - Dexter wears it, but if you take it from Dexter, he still has the armor on. It looks stupid... It's better if Diego himself gives you a Shadow Armor, then you can go to Harad to reforge it, after you lead Diego out from the valley. I will also increase the armor to 45/45/20/5 and 900 gold, which reminds me i need to put the Shadow Dress price to 550 gold.
Definitely looking forward to those. Maybe you could try implementing Ore Baron armors in some way in the future as well? Diego could give you the light Ore Baron Armor in Ch. 4 and then you could have Harad reforge it to the heavy variant (the one that Gomez wears) or have Diego give the heavy variant to you in chapter 5. again it's only a suggestion, you have already done enough so only add this if you feel like it :)
Thank you for the ideas! Yeah, i am thinking what and how... I just realized it's not fortunate to reforge the Shadow Armor, i think i will remove that in the next version. Also either Harad forge you Shadow Blade depending if your one handed or two handed skills are higher, or you can learn from Harad to forge Shadow Blade...
I thought the reforging of the Armor was okay, but I guess it doesn't make much sense in terms of balance, maybe it would be better to have Dobar reforge it since he is in the castle. I think that having Harad make you the sword as a comission is a better way of obtaining it than forging it yourself. The best way of getting it would probably be if a special blueprint was added that needed specific materials so the sword would stand out from the rest but that could be difficult to implement....
That's not what i meant. For the balance it's better to have more armors under 100/100/50/25, it's very easy to go to chapter 3 and you already have a pro armor ( at least or milicia and mercenary ), also it's better if Harad reforges the armor than Dobar, need more travel, so less easy. I keep the reforge at Harad, but no new textures, just putting it to 60/60/40/10. For the sword, i will make it chooseable - one handed or two.
Nice :) I think that you should try adding a new texture for the reforged Armor, it would look better that way. There are some online you could use/take inspiration from. I have one which I have been using myself for the 1.3 version.
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The mod modifies the bandit armors in the game according to the Shadow Armory mod.
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Medium Bandit's Armor - 45/45/15/5
Heavy Bandit's Armor - 65/65/25/10
Guard's heavy armor - 95/95/60/30
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Cavalorn gives you this armor if you give him 1 stalk of swampweed.
Shadow Armor - 45/45/20/5 - 900 gold
Give Cavalorn's letter to Vatras, then go back to Cavalorn, ask him: what about me?
Light Guard Armor - 60/60/40/10 - 1050 gold
Harad forges you this armor if you have 5 raw steel. You can buy that at Hakon or at any smith.
Medium Guard Armor - 80/80/50/25 - 1500 gold
Cassia gives you this armor after you pass the test and give her Constantino's ring.
Ancient Shadow Armor - 100/100/70/50 - 6250 gold
Saturas gives you at Jharkendar this armor if you have 2 stalks of swampweed at you.
Shadow Baron Armor - 120/120/85/65 - 12500 gold
Cavalorn gives you this armor if you kill Raven and give him a stalk of swampweed.
( You need to have the Ancient Shadow Armor at you. )
Black Shadow Armor - 137/133/102/106 - 17550 gold
Bennet forges this armor for 4 black ores after you passed into chapter 4 and reported to Garond you are back.
( You must have the Shadow Baron Armor with you of course. )
Spoiler - Black Ores:
1- In a cage next to the Orlan's Tavern, right of the teleporter, guarded by 3 zombies.
2- Not far from that you can find the Inubis crypt near Onar's farm.
3- The third is at Gap in the rock in the Jarkendar canyon, left side to the library, behind the wolves.
4 -Beat the Fire Dragon, you can find a black ore at its treasure.
5 -Go to the old Xardas tower in the Valley of Mines, reach the top.
6- At the platform next to the Guardians of the Dead, few steps from the x-point.
Ancient Shadow Baron Armor - 155/155/120/115 - 28500 gold
Saturas gives you this armor after you report him you killed all of the dragons ( in the valley if mines ).
My game crashes when turning on the 'ancient shadow armor', which is received in chapter 2 by saturas. Tried it in 2 mods (VarusBiker 1.4b and Respawnmod Enhanced [which includes the Minimod Balance]), both crashed when trying to equip it. Didn't save the error-message though.
Which version of the mod are you using?
edit:
Just for clarification of wordings:
The inventor of Ninja prefered to call all ninja-based stuff a 'ninja-patch', since 'mods' were initially modifications for Gothic 1/2, which could only be played separately. But the ninja-based stuff can be added and removed anytime at any game (and most mods).
But I am also used to call the stuff on nexusmods only 'mods'. Just called your mod in the beginning of this comment a 'ninja-patch' and wanted to clarify this in this edit here.
edit2:
Saw you have more than 1 texture for the ancient shadow armor. Maybe there's something wrong converted/packed/whatever.
edit3:
I suggest you put the comment with the list of armors and how they can be obtained either in a spoiler in the description, or simply make the comment 'sticky' via clicking on the button in the upper right corner of the comment.
... and no, nothing special script or something for that armor...
Thank you for the suggestion considering the armor spoiler, i made it sticky.
it's okay, take your time
Could you make Cavalorn give you the light shadow armor when you first meet him? It would make more sense since he had that armor in Gothic 1 and now he has the Ring of Water armor, so he doesnt need his old shadow armor anymore. You could make somebody else give you the normal shadow armor, for example Diego, or make Cavalorn give it to you after talking to lord Hagen or something like that.
Not to mention that most of the bandits wear Leather armor, and you can shine around in that armor and nobody attacks you....
I think that you should try adding a new texture for the reforged Armor, it would look better that way. There are some online you could use/take inspiration from. I have one which I have been using myself for the 1.3 version.