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JumpSo, after running into some jarring immersive issues and mod errors, I reworked my mod list and took the plunge into BCOM. What did I have to lose? Now I feel like an idiot for assuming BCOM would be a nightmae to add to my game - it was simplicity and elegance. Turned out I didn't even need very many compatibility patches - only one was needed from outside BCOM's installation script.
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Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Patch for Purists.esm
Tamriel_Data.esm
OAAB_Data.esm
Vanilla friendly wearables expansion.esm
Wares-base.esm
AATL_Data.esm
Patch for Purists - Book Typos.ESP
Patch for Purists - Semi-Purist Fixes.ESP
Wares_lists_TD.ESP
Wares_lists_OAAB.ESP
Adventurer's backback.ESP
TLAD Full - Still - Necro Colors.esp
Creatures_RP_Purist.ESP
Ahead of the Classes.ESP
Dwemer Airship_Exterior.ESP
LDM - Context Matters 1.7.ESP
Religions Elaborated.esp
Tamriel_Data_Graveyard.ESP
Beautiful cities of morrowind.esp
Reputation_Fixes_All.ESP
TD_Hotfix.ESP
Immersive Mournhold.esp
RepopulatedMorrowind.ESP
disposition_rewards.esp
OAAB_Grazelands.ESP
OAAB - Shipwrecks.ESP
Baan_Binif.ESP
OAAB_Tel Mora.ESP
VFWE_merged_objects_fix.ESP
Imperial Legion Expansion.esp
Morag Tong Polished.esp
OAAB - Foyada Mamaea.ESP
Ships of the Imperial Navy.esp
Expansion Delay.ESP
God of Worms.esp
BCOM_PfP_patch.ESP
Bal'laku - The Lonely Towers.esp
The Publicans.ESP
Guild of Vampire Hunters.ESP
OAAB - The Ashen Divide.ESP
OAAB - Tel Raloran - Immersive Tables.ESP
Less disclosed Addamasartus.ESP
AndranoTombRemastered.esp
Foreign Quarter Market Square.esp
Mage Robes.ESP
Immersive Tables.ESP
OAAB - Hawia_Egg_Mine.ESP
Caius' rooftop renovations.ESP
BCOM_Canal_01.ESP
Imperial Factions.ESP
Glowbugs AI.ESP
MandasManor.ESP
Velothi Wall Art Re-Addon.ESP
Vivec Lighthouse Questline.esp
A Merchant's Whim.ESP
Ancient Foes.esp
Articus Solstheim Clothes.ESP
Census_and_Excise_Office_Faction.ESP
OAAB Dwemer Pavements.ESP
Dagon_Fel_Lighthouse.ESP
Caldera Priory.ESP
Magicka of the Third Era.esp
Hidden Sea Loot.ESP
Glowbugs BC.ESP
Vivec_Lighthouse.ESP
Dwemer Airship.ESP
Dubdilla Location Fix.ESP
Dim Vertical Shipwreck.ESP
Creatures_RP_glowing_netch.ESP
GN - RuinedRedaynia.ESP
Vivec Ports.ESP
Folded in Port.ESP
correctUV Ore Replacer_respawning.esp
HealerCompanion.ESP
Clean__Blackthorn Barrow.ESP
Cave Drips.ESP
BurialObols.ESP
RepopulatedBloodmoon.ESP
Bloodmoon Rebalance.esp
Bloated Caves.esp
Beware the Sixth House.ESP
Berandas Overhaul.esp
FixingUleniHeleran.ESP
GhostRevenge.ESP
Great Service.ESP
ExpandedBirthsigns4Purists.esp
Greater Samarys.esp
Hidden Grotto Loot.ESP
Lake Fjalding Anti-Suck.ESP
Enhanced Light.ESP
LDM - Racist Service Refusal.ESP
FMI_CaiusBigPackage.ESP
Magicka Expanded - Resource Pack.ESP
Mournhold LOD.ESP
MW Containers Animated.esp
NearVanillaRoadSigns.esp
OAAB - Tombs and Towers.ESP
Putting Power in Willpower - Absorbonach.esp
RAMF_Mer_for_NPCs.esp
RP_Louis Beauchamp.ESP
SA House of Earthly Delights MV v1.0.ESP
Services Restored.ESP
Shinies.ESP
TelvanniSeaBeacons.ESP
The Weary Vampire.ESP
tribunal rebalance.ESP
Under Construction.esp
Nordic Dagon Fel.ESP
RP_bandits.ESP
Walkers of Morrowind.esp
Wares_MOAR.ESP
New Ilunibi.ESP
ShrineOfAzura.ESP
Velothi Wall Art.ESP
RV Necrorobes.ESP
Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
More Better Clothes.ESP
BCOM_pathgrid_reset.ESP
Interior exterior flag reset.ESP
Hostages.ESP
RepopulatedMorrowind_MageRobes.ESP
RepopulatedMorrowind_MoragTongPolished.ESP
Stav_OAAB_Battlemage.ESP
Vanilla friendly wearables expansion_cell_edits.esp
RF-Imperial_Legion_Expansion.esp
hw_GreetDistanceReducer.ESP
Morag Tong Polished - BCoM Patch.ESP
TaxmanCompost.esp
Merged Objects.esp
Effect Data - Load after Merged Objects.esp
multipatch.esp
No regrets! THANK YOU!
This morning I opted for just jettisoning my entire MW installation and starting again from scratch... it's simply easier (as well as kinder to the eyes) than sifting through one's mods folder/Wrye Mash with a fine tooth comb, and trying to figure out what needs to be kept/discarded, while attempting to make sure everything is reinstalled in the correct order. This approach also reduces the chances of repeating any previous mistakes.
Now, I'm slowly installing mods, and BCOM is one of the earliest to go in, my intent being to build my installation around it, which will (hopefully) avert any potential issues. I've done an early tour of the new cities.. and they're gorgeous. I love how they bring something fresh and creative, while retaining a vanilla sensibility. This is what I've been looking for all along.. I just wish I'd realised it sooner. I also specifically want to note that your rework of Wolverine Hall is easily the best I've seen.. it combines aesthetics with functionality, and it's very easy to navigate. Perfect!
So far.. I'm getting a nice, steady 60 FPS (I keep it capped) everywhere, though, of course, I haven't installed very much yet.
Honestly, thank you for this mod, and your valuable help in my other post.
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<flag name="BWW">On</flag>
</conditionFlags>
<files>
<file source="01 Waterworks Core\BCoM_WaterWorks.ESP" destination="BCoM_WaterWorks.ESP" priority="0" />
<file source="00 Core\BCOM_pathgrid_reset.ESP" destination="BCOM_pathgrid_reset.ESP" priority="0" />
<file source="00 Core\Beautiful cities of Morrowind.ESP" destination="Beautiful cities of Morrowind.ESP" priority="0" />
</files>
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<type name="Optional"/>
</typeDescriptor>
</plugin>
</plugins>
</group>
<group name="OpenMW or MGEXE" type="SelectAtMostOne">
<plugins order="Explicit">
<plugin name="OpenMW">
<description>These are only relevant if you use any of the Atmospheric Arena or Plazas options, including Skywind's Style fake interior Arena.
If you don't plan on using any of them, you can ignore this option.</description>
<files>
Thanks for making this mod.
Im currently having some trouble with my mod load order!
I use LOOT inside MO2 (Tried using MLOX but most of the mods doesnt show there, as they were installed with MO2).
Can you give us an optimal order?
The optimal load order depends of what you installed so I'd rather keep mlox/plox updated and support as many mods as possible than writing possible load order combinations!
Here is a link to the mod and screenshots without BCOM enabled and with. Thank you.
https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/53489
https://imgur.com/KBirJYA
https://imgur.com/zKciJqa
step 2. install minor overhauls
step 3. realize you ended up with a modular version of BCOM via. randompal's separate mods
step 4. become the embodiment of rage
very awesome, individually going through your small overhauls before this has only made me appreciate your work more!
Essentially my biggest issue is Balmora, it's like its spawning double of a lot of buildings and props to the point I see desks ontop of desks with the same props, and even the pillars across the canal, waterworks or not, are clipping into boats that are in the canal and everything. I know proper patches are in, as the modlist is fully built with the mod in mind and I have the BCoM patches downloaded last as well to ensure I got everything needed.
Vivec looks just fine, but I'm really puzzled by Balmorra and in general BCoM cuts my fps from well over 100 fps down to 20. I guess the only thing it could be is the load order, even tho' BCOM is one of the lowest on the list but I've tried to use PLOX and it doesn't sort anything.. Like always the great minds of morrowind modders make great mods, but god damn they write instructions like every single person should already know how to use their tool. I've taken care of any issues in PLOX's gui, I click accept and nothing moves in MO2.
I don't know, maybe these sounds similar to a known issue that someone could help with, if you'd like to know the modlist it's this one https://tinyurl.com/4srtxx5d for OpenMW 0.49, I haven't even made any crazy additions to it just some armor mods and Animated Morrowind which I did get the resources for and setup as said. Again, FPS is horrible, Balmora for some reason has a bunch of buildings that is spawned in twice inside of each other with a lot of things clipping and misaligned, which makes no sense since there isn't anything else that edits cities like that in the modlist. I am also using MO2 with the plugin for OpenMW. I know for certian is BCOM because this is the last mod that is causing issues and disabling literally works perfectly fine, I've also continually launched the game after every few mods, even ran the Delta Plugin already and have the esp on.
I'm losing my mind bro, it was JUST WORKING after moving it to the bottom and it's still there and now all of a sudden it broke the same exact way. ITS THE WATERWORKS ESP IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE BOTTOM, MORE THAN REST OF BCOM, PLEASE MAY THAT INFO HELP YOU FOR IM TOO FAR GONE IN INSANITY BUT FINALLY HAPPY ITS OVER
https://imgur.com/deMJuWM
I am using the provided BCOM patch for it and am using the core waterworks option in addition to the canal clutter and vendors options. I am using PLOX and everything seems to be in proper order. I've also experimented with custom rules to make sure Caius' Rooftop Renovation loads after BCOM and waterways (and the default letting it load first) and that has not solved the problem.
By the way, thank you for providing the waterworks YAGD patch, that worked wonderfully.
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