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Jumpstable SE format. You should install on a new save as the globals of the bard skill are changed and won't carry over. This update was done carefully so that the bard books were changed over without changing their positions or ids in the college to keep patches functional so your patches for the college cells should all still be good to go.
Due to feedback, the AIO patch 3.4 now includes all 9 original NPCs at the college. Although AIO does not touch all the NPC directly, this was made so modders can patch with NPC appearance overhauls easier. Galishai is providing a patch for users of high poly heads and Pandorable's appearance overhaul.
Some new patches and options released for version 3.3.
*Updated patches for AIO and USSEP.
*Updated patch for Snazzy SFCO v2.1.2.
*New patch for Keep it Clean to utilize new bathing room.
*Updated Undeath Patch.
*Mrf provides their own texture patch updated to Bards Reborn 3.3.
*Galishai provides their own patch for NPC appearance for Bards Reborn 3.3.
*Tcz provides their own NPC patch for outfit clothing replacer.
*Updated ELFx patch. Remember to pay attention to mod load order.
*Note: ELFx patch continues to be the one patch that is a plugin, not ESL. I was asked before if you can convert to ESL, the answer is yes but the file may be updated again later. It may be too tricky for you to remember to do your conversions with each update.
*Reminder: RLO patch has a fix for RLO caused seams around stairways. I contacted RLO creator and he said he no longer works on the mod. One patch has the fix for RLO caused seams, but might not apply a Solitude retexture of stairway. No one has reported such a case, but if it happens to you, use the earlier RLO patch and live with the small seams.
Compatibility v3.3: View the Article
Load Bards Reborn below texture and lighting mods.
Please check your load order when updating mods.
Load Order Example:
1. USSEP
2. Lighting Mods
3. Texture Mods
4. Clutter and Furniture Overhaul Mods
5. Bards Reborn
*Fixed small bug where follower didn't go into tower room.
*Bonus in update 3.3 is restored cut dialogue between Viarmo, Pantea, and Aia (was supposed to be heard at Winking Skeever, now takes place at the college).
(not definitive as I don't, in this version, timed every song)
Overall basic instrument resume:
Quickest: Lute 4, at ~27secs
My Personal FAV: Lute 7
Overall quickest:
Songs of Hammerfell 2, with 24 secs
Most of the Song books can be read in the Bards College for free
Lute:
quickest 4, FAV 7
1 ~38 secs
2 ~43 secs
3 ~39 secs
4 ~27 secs
5 ~39 secs
6 ~1:08 min:secs
7 ~1:22 min:secs FAV
8 ~1:24 min:secs (Greensleeves)
Flute
Flute 1&2 are the same
Quickest 6
1 ~37 secs
2 ~37 secs
3 ~36 secs
4 ~56 secs
5 ~40 secs
6 ~30 secs
Drum
No FAV or really quickest
1 ~37 secs
2 ~35 secs
3 ~37 secs
Songs of BlackMarsh
1 ~55 secs
Song of high Rock
1 ~29 secs
Songs of Hammerfell
quickest 2, FAV 7
1 ~51 secs
2 ~24 secs
3 ~36 secs FAV because i like the "tremolo" guitar technic
4 ~47 secs
5 ~52 secs arabic / egypt vibes
6 ~1:14 min:secs long but really nice drum duo
7 ~1:44 min:secs another long but beautifull piece, lute + some flute + voice, with nice arabic / egypt vibes
Songs of Skyrim (Revised)
1 ~57 secs "Age of Agression"
2 ~ 57 secs "Age of Opression"
3 ~46 secs "Ragnar the Red" (looks like Cyndi Lauper version)
4 ~41 secs "The Dragonborn Comes"
5 ~1:54
I was wondering whether anyone has experience of using EasyNPC with Bards Reborn and Become a Bard? It identifies them both as 'suspicious masters' - presumably they edit NPC records. Do I need to exclude them from, or set to ignore them in, my EasyNPC build - this is what EasyNPC's advice recommends - or are there other suggestions for using them together? Thank you for any advice!
Does anyone know of a fix?
I have a problem with the Music Instrument exam as I can't read all of the plaques. It cuts off before it has ended. I tried scrolling down. Nope. Tried using the arrow keys. That didn't work either, I don't have any mods that change the fonts. Is there a way that I have missed to read these that I have missed? I really think that I miss a lot of the lore from these museum pieces as the rest of the plaque is unseen. Thanks to anyone in advance for any help.
I had to go back to the Bards Reborn Student of Song loose files version 4.4 and its script fix in place of the new 5.0. I am testing that right now. Free movement works and the song books and play instrument menu work. I am still nervous about the duet code. I tested it and it's still bad. If you play the wrong duet you will be stuck drumming your lute and flute and I have not come up with a sure-fire way to break out of that. I tried reinstalling and then I found a really early save where things were working and loaded ever save thereafter until I hit a spot where I was drumming my lute and I had to start the game back up from the last good save.
Test Details: Bards Reborn 4.4 and it's script fix patch, Skyrim's got Talent v1.76, Bards Reborn-SGT - main file v3.51 (the patch that makes SGT and Reborn work together), SGT Player Reactions addon v1.07, SGT-Bards Reborn-Player Reactions addon v1.0, the free movement for SGT v1.6, the player reactions free movement patch v1.0, and Bards Reborn USSEP patch 3.3. I hope I didn't leave anything out. If anyone comes up with a better setup, I'm all ears. My thanks to a lot of people who did a lot of hard work trying to bring the bards college to life.
I felt the quest side of Bards college expanded was great, and some of the abilities you learn via that mod are great too but the way you learn instruments and the way you join the college... not so much.
Bards Reborn
Skyrim's Got Talent - Improve As a Bard
And Creation Bars College expansion
Keeping the best features of each mod would be awesome BUT i must say i will play bards college expansion later so i don't know how much these 3 mods need patching between them
if he's mod conflict with that mod then there is nothing to do anymore
https://help.nexusmods.com/article/141-publisher-approved-paid-modding-faq
The quests don't actually touch each other. All of the Bards Reborn quests are done prior to Tending the Flames, whereas BCE begins during that quest...so you CAN technically use them together, but the door to the college will only take you into one of the interiors and you'll have to CC your way into the other one. Or you can activate BCE once you've completed all the quests for Bards Reborn and place it lower in the load order so that that's where the door takes you.
I imagine an integration patch would have to transfer all of the important NPCs of one mod into the interior cell of the other, allow for the Bards Reborn college renovations to be in place, and make sure the scripting is all good between them. It would also have to take into account the fact that Bards Reborn requires Become a Bard in the first place, and there would have to be compatibility between that mod and BCE as well; alternatively, Bards Reborn could be changed to use BCE as a dependency instead.
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