I am currently on a major break, life has become insane and I dont have the time or mental willpower to make mods at this time. That does NOT mean I am gone forever or that my mods are dead/broken, it simply means I dont have the time right now. Modding is fun for me its a nice hobby, however it was becoming a job that I got nothing from for all the many hours I have to put into them. Its just to much for me at this time.
My permissions still stand, just because I am on break does NOT mean you can take my mods without permission.
So I want to talk to you about this new "Survival Mode" coming from the Skyrim Creation Club, let me put things in perspective first.
I released WIC for Skyrim in 2012, its now 2017. Over these years I have taken my personal time to keep the mod updated and working, all the while I have not played Skyrim in about 2 years. I have personally NEVER played SSE other then testing my mod out.
2012 that is a long time to maintain a mod for games I do not play. More then alot of mod authors are willing to do (I think I might be crazy for still doing this really), I still even to this day answer PMs about this mod at least a couple times a week... since 2012.
Now about the upcoming Survival Mode, you will have to pay for it to get the "mod". I dont even know if you can mod or use assets from mods found in the Skyrim Creation Club? But one thing I will say is this, I dont have the money to buy anything else for Skyrim. I will be literally throwing money away I need to help pay off medical bills for myself and my now passed dog, I will be throwing away any money I need for my upcoming new puppy I am getting in about a week.
I will try (and I actually want to keep my mod updated) my best to update this mod for Skyrim Creation Club's Survival Mode, maybe I can get the assets from the CK without buying the thing though I doubt it. I can not spend any more money for Skyrim, it does not matter how little or much it is I just can not do that atm.
So please do not pester me constantly about this, you may of course talk about it in the thread but please keep in mind how much time and work I have put into this mod since 2012.
Sorry to break in your sticky. My personal opinion is : Survival Mode is a totally new ball game. We used to have Frostfall and all mods are made to work with that. If you would keep your mod working with Frostfall it would be awesome.
I for one do not expect you to make two versions ( Frostfall and Survival Mode ) The only thing I wish is that it’s made compatible for update 1.5.3 in the non-Survival Mode. Yes there will be people buying Survival Mode , but it will be but a few compared to the Frostfall users. I for one wouldn’t want to spend time and/or money on that.
From the second paragraph of the Survival announcement: "Both PC and console players will get Survival Mode free for one week once it launches on their preferred platform."
DarkDominion: Your not breaking the sticky I left it open for comments to get some feedback from users. My mod will always try to always be compatible with Frostfall, its a mod I used and respect alot so no worries there.
Windofmadness: Yes but do you get to KEEP the mode after the one week, it almost sounds like you get to have the mode but only until the week ends? Thats the problem with some of this pay for mods things its a money making thing so they may not be giving out stuff really for free. I will be keeping tabs on it of course.
If I can get it for free and get to keep it then its not a problem and I will figure something out to make my mod work with it, but if its a try before you buy temporary thing then there is no point to updating my mod for it since I can never update it again then lol.
I mostly posted this so I dont get more people pming me about it (I already had 3 people contact me and its only been out for like 1 and half days lol) and feedback from users.
Hi Nivea From what i've seen in the FO4 CC, if you purchase one of the "creations" for free you get to keep it for good. I also have a sneaking suspicion that Chesko helped make Survival Mode
That is really good to hear then, I should be able to make a patch for it when the mode comes out fully. I have not had any experience with the paid mods for FO4 so I really had no idea if they would make it a cash grab where you just got a taste of the mod and then would have to pay for it or if you got to keep it.
The Keywords for the Survival Mode has been conveniently added to the Update.ESM. There is no need to purchase the Survival Mode to update your mod for the Survival Mode. All you need to to do is import the new Keywords into the Armors records from the Update.esm. There are two Keywords that determine if an outfit keeps you warm or if it keeps your cool.With that said, the only keyword you need to add is, "Survival_ArmorWarm [KYWD:01002ED9]". Add it to your all your ARMOR records and all your cloaks and hoods will be compatible with Survival Mode.
Forgive me, I also discovered this Keyword, "Survival_BodyAndHead [KYWD:01002EDB]". It's used in tandem with the above Keyword and it's use is pretty self explanatory.
Cloaks and Capes https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2019/? has already updated his mod for survival mode support (he even still has frostfall support)! Here is hoping it will be an easy conversion for this one as well! =)
I am sure it will be, I have just been really focused on some stuff at home this week. I will take a look at it once it comes out officially and make any patches ect then.
so, ive made a patch for survival... well, not a patch, ive just added the needed keywords to the .esp of this mod (keywords included in "update.esm") i had to add Survival_ArmorWarm and clothinghead (because clothing necklace desn't work for warmth) i did it with a script... and i dont want to make a separate nexus mod page to upoad it... i was thinking to send it to the author so can be uploaded here as an optional or something? maybe for testing and such... but it works with no problems i use fnis and a lot of popular mods... i just added those 2 keywords to the cloaks...
It's really sad nothing came out from the talks about Survival. @batuace maybe you could share here how to manually adjust this mod's files for Survival with two lines you've mentioned? I will appreciate a lot cloaks that finally have warmth rating...
If foot clipping is bothering you try this mod 360 Walk and Run Plus: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/7446
About Cloaks of Skyrim patch, please read! Cloaks of Skyrim patch added, it only works for the main file (the full version, both WIC and COS) at this time. I will upload the rest as time permits, or I may wait until my next update is finished. Should be done soon anyways.
SO IF YOUR GAME CRASHES WHEN YOU USE THE PATCH, ITS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT VERSIONS OF EACH MOD.
Remember, its for 1nivWICCloaks.esp and Cloaks.esp only.
This is the work flow for the next few updates for WIC and WIC SSE:
1. Dragonbone hood options Meshes: DONE CK Work: DONE ----------------------------------------- 2. Dragonscale hood options Meshes: DONE CK Work: 70% ----------------------------------------- 3. Glass hood options Meshes: DONE CK Work: 0% ----------------------------------------- 4. Ebony hood options Make Beast Race Helm Options: DONE Meshes: DONE CK Work: 0% ----------------------------------------- 5. Add environment maps and cube maps Textures: 0% Meshes: 0% ----------------------------------------- 6. Xbox texture resizing Textures: DONE ----------------------------------------- [Release] ----------------------------------------- 7. New crafting system: ----------------------------------------- [Release] ----------------------------------------- 8. Sabre Cat Cloak Textures: 0% Meshes: 0% CK Work: 0% ----------------------------------------- [Release] ----------------------------------------- 9. Dawnguard Helmet hood options Meshes: 0% CK Work: 0% ----------------------------------------- 10. Dawnguard Full Helmet hood options Make Beast Race Helm Options: 0% Meshes: 0% CK Work: 0% ----------------------------------------- 11. Special Dawnguard cloaks Meshes: 0% CK Work: 0% ----------------------------------------- 12. Considering Dragonborne options. ----------------------------------------- 13. Less foot clipping cloak options Meshes: 0% ----------------------------------------- 14. Attempt HDT versions.
I have no set timeline on when these will all be done by, I am working on this when I have the spare time since I am personally not playing Skyrim or SSE right now.
Sometimes when interacting with a corpse that has an enchanted cloak, the game will crash. Not immediately, but usually after a couple of steps have been taken away from the corpse.
my only issue is i run all these mods , cloaks of Skyrim , cloaks and capes and this mod and unfortunately this mod seems to just erase Cloaks and caps. like 0 enemies or anything wear anything from cloaks and caps when this mod is active. cloaks of skyrim is fine i see them everywhere but this seems like it replaces everything cloaks and caps would appear on
(if anyone has a solution for this this would be appreciated and i do - to my knowledge - have all the compatibility patch's for all 3 of these mods)
Hoping there's some sort of confirmation on this, and if not if someone can port/upload a 4k version.
I loved this mod in Oldrim, but I worry about adding it now because all my other mods are going to be 4k, so the cloaks could end up looking out of place.
This doesn't necessarily need a retexture, it needs a complete overhaul to make the fur actually look like 3d fur. examples: cloaks and capes: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2019 fluffyworks: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/56361 fusafusa: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5514
In case anyone is interested, I created a patch based on SkyPatcher, which eliminates the need for third-party patches. It is ESL-flagged, has some fixes and tweaks with all vanilla changes/edits removed. Mind that it does require the regular/full version of WiC. It is also fully compatible with my SkyPatched patch for of Cloaks of Skyrim.
For anyone struggling in the Land of Distant Future and No Old Mod Support (also known as 2024). I had a problem with cloaks not getting distributed to NPCs - I followed all instructions here and couldn't get it to work. I was already running Cloaks of Skyrim with Winter Is Coming, the compatibility patch and the old USSEP patch for CoS disabled, but the items were still not distributed to any NPCs.
Installing Wet and Cold mod fixed the problem! The NPCs now recognize that Winterhold is bloody freezing and finally put on their lovely cloaks and hoods. :)
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I am currently on a major break, life has become insane and I dont have the time or mental willpower to make mods at this time. That does NOT mean I am gone forever or that my mods are dead/broken, it simply means I dont have the time right now. Modding is fun for me its a nice hobby, however it was becoming a job that I got nothing from for all the many hours I have to put into them. Its just to much for me at this time.
My permissions still stand, just because I am on break does NOT mean you can take my mods without permission.
So I want to talk to you about this new "Survival Mode" coming from the Skyrim Creation Club, let me put things in perspective first.
I released WIC for Skyrim in 2012, its now 2017. Over these years I have taken my personal time to keep the mod updated and working, all the while I have not played Skyrim in about 2 years. I have personally NEVER played SSE other then testing my mod out.
2012 that is a long time to maintain a mod for games I do not play. More then alot of mod authors are willing to do (I think I might be crazy for still doing this really), I still even to this day answer PMs about this mod at least a couple times a week... since 2012.
Now about the upcoming Survival Mode, you will have to pay for it to get the "mod". I dont even know if you can mod or use assets from mods found in the Skyrim Creation Club? But one thing I will say is this, I dont have the money to buy anything else for Skyrim. I will be literally throwing money away I need to help pay off medical bills for myself and my now passed dog, I will be throwing away any money I need for my upcoming new puppy I am getting in about a week.
I will try (and I actually want to keep my mod updated) my best to update this mod for Skyrim Creation Club's Survival Mode, maybe I can get the assets from the CK without buying the thing though I doubt it. I can not spend any more money for Skyrim, it does not matter how little or much it is I just can not do that atm.
So please do not pester me constantly about this, you may of course talk about it in the thread but please keep in mind how much time and work I have put into this mod since 2012.
Sorry to break in your sticky.
My personal opinion is : Survival Mode is a totally new ball game.
We used to have Frostfall and all mods are made to work with that.
If you would keep your mod working with Frostfall it would be awesome.
I for one do not expect you to make two versions ( Frostfall and Survival Mode )
The only thing I wish is that it’s made compatible for update 1.5.3 in the non-Survival Mode.
Yes there will be people buying Survival Mode , but it will be but a few compared to the Frostfall users. I for one wouldn’t want to spend time and/or money on that.
Thank you for understanding.
Windofmadness: Yes but do you get to KEEP the mode after the one week, it almost sounds like you get to have the mode but only until the week ends? Thats the problem with some of this pay for mods things its a money making thing so they may not be giving out stuff really for free. I will be keeping tabs on it of course.
If I can get it for free and get to keep it then its not a problem and I will figure something out to make my mod work with it, but if its a try before you buy temporary thing then there is no point to updating my mod for it since I can never update it again then lol.
I mostly posted this so I dont get more people pming me about it (I already had 3 people contact me and its only been out for like 1 and half days lol) and feedback from users.
From what i've seen in the FO4 CC, if you purchase one of the "creations" for free you get to keep it for good.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that Chesko helped make Survival Mode
Forgive me, I also discovered this Keyword, "Survival_BodyAndHead [KYWD:01002EDB]". It's used in tandem with the above Keyword and it's use is pretty self explanatory.
@batuace maybe you could share here how to manually adjust this mod's files for Survival with two lines you've mentioned? I will appreciate a lot cloaks that finally have warmth rating...
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/7446
About Cloaks of Skyrim patch, please read!
Cloaks of Skyrim patch added, it only works for the main file (the full version, both WIC and COS) at this time. I will upload the rest as time permits, or I may wait until my next update is finished. Should be done soon anyways.
SO IF YOUR GAME CRASHES WHEN YOU USE THE PATCH, ITS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT VERSIONS OF EACH MOD.
Remember, its for 1nivWICCloaks.esp and Cloaks.esp only.
SSE XBox: https://mods.bethesda.net/#en/workshop/skyrim/mod-detail/3206711
WIC Future Progress
This is the work flow for the next few updates for WIC and WIC SSE:
1. Dragonbone hood options
Meshes: DONE
CK Work: DONE
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2. Dragonscale hood options
Meshes: DONE
CK Work: 70%
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3. Glass hood options
Meshes: DONE
CK Work: 0%
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4. Ebony hood options
Make Beast Race Helm Options: DONE
Meshes: DONE
CK Work: 0%
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5. Add environment maps and cube maps
Textures: 0%
Meshes: 0%
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6. Xbox texture resizing
Textures: DONE
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[Release]
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7. New crafting system:
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[Release]
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8. Sabre Cat Cloak
Textures: 0%
Meshes: 0%
CK Work: 0%
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[Release]
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9. Dawnguard Helmet hood options
Meshes: 0%
CK Work: 0%
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10. Dawnguard Full Helmet hood options
Make Beast Race Helm Options: 0%
Meshes: 0%
CK Work: 0%
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11. Special Dawnguard cloaks
Meshes: 0%
CK Work: 0%
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12. Considering Dragonborne options.
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13. Less foot clipping cloak options
Meshes: 0%
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14. Attempt HDT versions.
I have no set timeline on when these will all be done by, I am working on this when I have the spare time since I am personally not playing Skyrim or SSE right now.
any way to just spawn them in via console?
(if anyone has a solution for this this would be appreciated and i do - to my knowledge - have all the compatibility patch's for all 3 of these mods)
I loved this mod in Oldrim, but I worry about adding it now because all my other mods are going to be 4k, so the cloaks could end up looking out of place.
examples:
cloaks and capes: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2019
fluffyworks: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/56361
fusafusa: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5514
Installing Wet and Cold mod fixed the problem! The NPCs now recognize that Winterhold is bloody freezing and finally put on their lovely cloaks and hoods. :)