The mod has 2 versions. Simply chose the one you prefer.
ESL VERSION : It is an ESL flagged plugin, and it does not contain ANY NPC EDIT. This is a lightweiht plugin that will nly affect player characters elves, easier to handle and compatible with multiple NNPC replacers that are available on nexus.
NPC VERSION : It's not an ESL, and contains NPC edits, and facegen.
Please Make Sure that you only install one version, and if you decide to swap, before installing the other, UNINSTALL THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE MOD. The plugins have different names, to avoid issues between ESL and normal plugins.
Yes, sorry. I was wondering about compatibility with Dawnguard and the vampire "races". There seems to be some entries that have not been carried over. As can be seen in this screenshot. I was just wondering if they should be carried over and what the consequences are if they are or aren't carried over:
I love this mod and although I don't play elven characters myself, I used it to make elven npcs look better in the game. I've discovered (after much mod testing) that this mod will cause my imperial character (vanilla head) to have facial hair clipping issues when used with Expressive Facegen Morphs SE. Deactivated either one solves the clipping issue, but when I deactivate EFM SE my imperial character's face is affected in a undesired way (imo) versus deactivating EEO SE and maintaining my desired pc racemenu build but losing the benefits of improving the elven npcs.
*Just wanted others to know, because I was pulling out my hair trying to figure out why my character was having facial hair clipping issues.
Well the beard tri files are shared among all races. So you can only have one mod affecting the beards of NPCs.
EEO edits the male elves headmeshs, therefore editing also their beards to avoid gaps. The other mod you use edits the phonemes stoed inside the same file.
Since you do not play as an elf, you can use bth mods but you must give priority to the facegen mod. This way your male player character elves will ave beard gaps, but the imperial male NPCS will use the desired beard, and as long as you do not pay as a male elf, you'll never see this part.
I've cured many a Dark Face issue, but Rinori Imaryn from Interesting NPC's has me stumped. No mod order conflicts appear for her in SSEedit, but when I deactivate my Ethereal Elven Overhaul plugin the problem vanishes, and when I turn the .esp back on again the problem returns.
Is there a patch for these two mods that I need, or something else I must do to resolve it? This NPC also has vampirism, so could Dawnguard be part of the issue?
The absence of logical interaction between these two mods leads me to anticipate that a third mod is to blame, but I'm struggling to pinpoint the culprit. I'd hoped someone here knew more so I could short-cut my way to the solution.
I'll keep working on it and post any discoveries here in case my findings should prove useful to anyone else.
I am unable to move ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp above 3DNPC.esp to allow Interesting NPC's to overwrite your plugin, which I think would resolve the issue. I tried to force a metadata rule in LOOT for this load order change, but these two plugins seem to be locked to ensure your plugin 'wins.' LOOT gave me the following warning:
Is there a reason for this? Why can't Interesting NPC's load after Ethereal Elven Overhaul?
The reason is that 3dnpc is marked as Masterfile, so it's considered as a defacto ESM. ESM always come before ESPs, it's hardcoed.
3dnpc is a mod that modifies existing NPCs, so there are conflicts with usig that mod and nPC overhauls that require edits made with a plugin. You'll have to manually patch these mods if you want to use them together.
You could delete the affected NPCs from EEO, and avoid conflict that way, or the other way around, but it'd require a bbit ofthinkering and exporting the head from 3dnpc, which i doubt the mod manager wil allow you to do.
To put it simply, to have the new edits dont to the NPCs, you cannot have edits made to their faces. You should check the 3dnpc compatibility section for mre information.
So if I were to attempt to remove Rinori Imaryn from Ethereal Elven Overhaul, how would I go about that in the Creation Kit? Or could it be done in SSEEdit?
Go down to the name of the NPC, in the NPC category of the ESP, and delete it- I believe theres a search function to easily find the NPC by name.
Right Click and delete. You may also ant to delete facegen files in the Archive, but since it was being overwritten, then you probably dont need to do that.
Unfortunately, this cannot work because EEO only lists vanilla actors. As Rinori Imaryn is a 3DNPC actor she has no listing in your mod, which brings us back to my initial difficulty - no conflict exists in SSEEdit for this actor, so I don't know what change to make in EEO to correct her dark face issue. Though EEO does not change Rinori Imaryn specifically, it does make changes to both Dunmer and Vampires, of which she is both. So, short of further guidance, I'll conduct my further experiments with your mod in these areas.
Good evening, so I've been trying to figure out what the cause of the issue is I've been having in Skyrim. Now here is the oddity I've been facing: I've been having vampire attacks in my game from time to time in certain intervals. Now the issue isn't the vampire attacks but the NPC's in the attacks; I've noticed some Elven-based characters will have black faces. Now I boiled it down to a few mods (since it only touched elves). When I disbaled EEO the black face seemed to vanish—but the elves came out looking horrible. I was wondering if there was a fix. I'm trying to figure it out in SSSEdit since taking it seems to be a FaceGen issue with the mesh
I'm having an issue with a few NPCs, specifically only female elves having purple noses? But I haven't exactly seen it with any other NPCs other than like two. I'm assuming it's a missing texture or something along those lines. I've tried to re-install the Women of Skyrim, EEO, I've tried to restart Skyrim, move EEO to a higher priority and I removed "Beards" by Hvergelmir, and its associated files if that's relevant.
I think perhaps "Vanilla hair remake NPCs" is the culprit? But it isn't exactly higher poly, but it's a higher poly than the vanilla heads. I'll gladly remove it if I find a good substitute.
Here's my modlist:
0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 5 5 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm _ResourcePack.esl 254 FE 2 Armors of the Velothi Pt2.esl 254 FE 3 siltstriderarmor.esl 254 FE 4 mephalasprelate.esl 254 FE 5 KvetchiMercenary.esl 254 FE 6 EastholdTotemicSet.esl 254 FE 7 Sentinel - Distribution Framework.esp 6 6 SkyUI_SE.esp 7 7 dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp 254 FE 8 NPCs Take Cover.esp 254 FE 9 Skyrim On Skooma.esp 8 8 Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp 9 9 Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp 10 a Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 11 b Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp 254 FE a Odin - Summons Redone.esp 12 c Sentinel.esp 254 FE b Sentinel - Unique Stormcloak Meshes.esp 254 FE c Sentinel - Unique Skyforge Meshes.esp 254 FE d Sentinel - Imperial Crafting.esp 254 FE e Sentinel - Unique Guard Meshes.esp 254 FE f FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp 13 d ethereal_elven_overhaul_NPC.esp 254 FE 10 Armors of the Velothi.esp 254 FE 11 SkaalChiefArmor.esp 14 e RaceMenu.esp 15 f RaceMenuPlugin.esp 16 10 XPMSE.esp 254 FE 12 CBBE.esp 17 11 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 18 12 UIExtensions.esp 19 13 FNIS.esp 20 14 Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 254 FE 13 Vanilla hair remake NPCs.esp 21 15 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 22 16 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
Do I need to do what you told someone prior? Because I do use "Vanilla hair remake NPCs"
"You just need to re export the npcs faces using my EEO esp, and with Vanilla hairs mod installed. just hit ctrl+4 in CK on the NPCS you want to export."
If I need to do that, do you know where I could find a tutorial? I'm not entirely sure about any of this since I'm still very new to modding. I'm just kind of stuck right now, and have no idea what to do.
Yes, he hair mod, conflicts wih NPC rplacers. you need to generate the NPC faes. A tutoril i suppose you can find one in youtube. Skylaskyrim has many. but they are usually more ind epth with looks customization. you may want to googgle utorials for exporting NPC facegen.
The mod actually works with Bijin AIO, you need to load the mod and its plugin before Bijin AIO. Make sure EEO is right before Bijin AIO. Hope it helps :)
Okay, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here, but all of my female elf NPCs are bald. I'm almost certain the culprit is a hair mod, but I've disabled them and still run into this problem. I reinstalled them after that and it still is happening. Here's my load order.
Note: I only have one of the JUMP emps enabled. The 150 one, specifically.
it's a conflict with an NPC mod, however i cannot possibly know the name of each and every npc replacer mod that exists on this website. Check for conflits in SSEDIT.
Make sure you know this mod is not compatible with highpoly heads,a nd it must be used with vanilla head as explained in description.
Besides the ESP\plugin, you'll also need to make sure you uninstall the NPC facegen files, or the mod may still cause conflicts. but first you need to identify the culprit in SSEDIT
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The mod has 2 versions. Simply chose the one you prefer.
- ESL VERSION : It is an ESL flagged plugin, and it does not contain ANY NPC EDIT.
- NPC VERSION : It's not an ESL, and contains NPC edits, and facegen.
Please Make Sure that you only install one version, and if you decide to swap, before installing the other, UNINSTALL THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE MOD. The plugins have different names, to avoid issues between ESL and normal plugins.This is a lightweiht plugin that will nly affect player characters elves, easier to handle and compatible with multiple NNPC replacers that are available on nexus.
Can you help me understand?
However, for some reason the characters were (much) uglier with SSE, i have no idea why.
I ended up using Expressive Facegen Morphs SE mod and it was much better. Still, a pity that i couldn't use EEO again as it's a very good mod...
*Just wanted others to know, because I was pulling out my hair trying to figure out why my character was having facial hair clipping issues.
EEO edits the male elves headmeshs, therefore editing also their beards to avoid gaps.
The other mod you use edits the phonemes stoed inside the same file.
Since you do not play as an elf, you can use bth mods but you must give priority to the facegen mod. This way your male player character elves will ave beard gaps, but the imperial male NPCS will use the desired beard, and as long as you do not pay as a male elf, you'll never see this part.
Is there a patch for these two mods that I need, or something else I must do to resolve it?
This NPC also has vampirism, so could Dawnguard be part of the issue?
The absence of logical interaction between these two mods leads me to anticipate that a third mod is to blame, but I'm struggling to pinpoint the culprit. I'd hoped someone here knew more so I could short-cut my way to the solution.
I'll keep working on it and post any discoveries here in case my findings should prove useful to anyone else.
Is there a reason for this? Why can't Interesting NPC's load after Ethereal Elven Overhaul?
3dnpc is a mod that modifies existing NPCs, so there are conflicts with usig that mod and nPC overhauls that require edits made with a plugin. You'll have to manually patch these mods if you want to use them together.
You could delete the affected NPCs from EEO, and avoid conflict that way, or the other way around, but it'd require a bbit ofthinkering and exporting the head from 3dnpc, which i doubt the mod manager wil allow you to do.
To put it simply, to have the new edits dont to the NPCs, you cannot have edits made to their faces. You should check the 3dnpc compatibility section for mre information.
So if I were to attempt to remove Rinori Imaryn from Ethereal Elven Overhaul, how would I go about that in the Creation Kit?
Or could it be done in SSEEdit?
you simply boot ip, and load the ESP of EEO.
Go down to the name of the NPC, in the NPC category of the ESP, and delete it- I believe theres a search function to easily find the NPC by name.
Right Click and delete. You may also ant to delete facegen files in the Archive, but since it was being overwritten, then you probably dont need to do that.
Though EEO does not change Rinori Imaryn specifically, it does make changes to both Dunmer and Vampires, of which she is both. So, short of further guidance, I'll conduct my further experiments with your mod in these areas.
Check in SSEDIT which mod affects it. it'll sow all mods affecting that ID.
Other picture of the glitch
I'm having an issue with a few NPCs, specifically only female elves having purple noses? But I haven't exactly seen it with any other NPCs other than like two. I'm assuming it's a missing texture or something along those lines. I've tried to re-install the Women of Skyrim, EEO, I've tried to restart Skyrim, move EEO to a higher priority and I removed "Beards" by Hvergelmir, and its associated files if that's relevant.
I think perhaps "Vanilla hair remake NPCs" is the culprit? But it isn't exactly higher poly, but it's a higher poly than the vanilla heads. I'll gladly remove it if I find a good substitute.
Here's my modlist:
0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
5 5 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
_ResourcePack.esl
254 FE 2 Armors of the Velothi Pt2.esl
254 FE 3 siltstriderarmor.esl
254 FE 4 mephalasprelate.esl
254 FE 5 KvetchiMercenary.esl
254 FE 6 EastholdTotemicSet.esl
254 FE 7 Sentinel - Distribution Framework.esp
6 6 SkyUI_SE.esp
7 7 dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp
254 FE 8 NPCs Take Cover.esp
254 FE 9 Skyrim On Skooma.esp
8 8 Triumvirate - Mage Archetypes.esp
9 9 Odin - Skyrim Magic Overhaul.esp
10 a Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
11 b Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp
254 FE a Odin - Summons Redone.esp
12 c Sentinel.esp
254 FE b Sentinel - Unique Stormcloak Meshes.esp
254 FE c Sentinel - Unique Skyforge Meshes.esp
254 FE d Sentinel - Imperial Crafting.esp
254 FE e Sentinel - Unique Guard Meshes.esp
254 FE f FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp
13 d ethereal_elven_overhaul_NPC.esp
254 FE 10 Armors of the Velothi.esp
254 FE 11 SkaalChiefArmor.esp
14 e RaceMenu.esp
15 f RaceMenuPlugin.esp
16 10 XPMSE.esp
254 FE 12 CBBE.esp
17 11 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
18 12 UIExtensions.esp
19 13 FNIS.esp
20 14 Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
254 FE 13 Vanilla hair remake NPCs.esp
21 15 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
22 16 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
Do I need to do what you told someone prior? Because I do use "Vanilla hair remake NPCs"
"You just need to re export the npcs faces using my EEO esp, and with Vanilla hairs mod installed. just hit ctrl+4 in CK on the NPCS you want to export."
If I need to do that, do you know where I could find a tutorial? I'm not entirely sure about any of this since I'm still very new to modding. I'm just kind of stuck right now, and have no idea what to do.
Hope it helps :)
Note: I only have one of the JUMP emps enabled. The 150 one, specifically.
Skyrim.esmUpdate.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm
ccbgssse001-fish.esm
ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl
ccbgssse003-zombies.esl
ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl
ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl
ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl
ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl
ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl
ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl
ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl
ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl
ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl
ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl
ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl
ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl
ccqdrsse001-survivalmode.esl
cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm
cceejsse001-hstead.esm
ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl
ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl
ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl
ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl
cceejsse002-tower.esl
ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl
ccvsvsse002-pets.esl
ccbgssse037-curios.esl
ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl
ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl
ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl
ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl
ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl
ccmtysse002-ve.esl
ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl
ccvsvsse001-winter.esl
cceejsse003-hollow.esl
ccbgssse016-umbra.esm
ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm
ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl
ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl
ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl
ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl
ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl
ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl
ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl
ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl
ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl
ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl
ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl
ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl
ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl
ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl
ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl
ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl
ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl
ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl
ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl
ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl
ccbgssse066-staves.esl
ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm
ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl
ccbgssse069-contest.esl
ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl
ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl
ccbgssse025-advdsgs.esm
ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl
ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl
ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl
ccedhsse003-redguard.esl
cceejsse004-hall.esl
cceejsse005-cave.esm
cckrtsse001_altar.esl
cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl
ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm
_ResourcePack.esl
RSkyrimChildren.esm
unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp
unofficial skyrim creation club content patch.esl
RaceCompatibility.esm
MCS - Core.esm
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
TheNewGentleman.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Fabled Forests.esp
Fabled Forests - Exlude Named Locations AIO.esp
cutting room floor.esp
AI Overhaul.esp
COR_AllRace.esp
Fabled Forests - Exclude Towns Villages Inns AIO.esp
Attack Dogs.esp
Realm of Lorkhan - Custom Alternate Start - Choose your own adventure.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_Expanded.esp
adoptAventusAretino.esp
Aventus Aretino Voiced.esp
AretinoHome.esp
TSR_TeldrynSerious.esp
man_DaedricShrines.esp
LakeHaven.esp
Fabled Lake Haven Patch.esp
TSR_TeldrynSeriousPatch.esp
ACatsLife.esp
Innocence Lost - Quest Expansion.esp
TSR_SoA_Patch.esp
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp
AI Overhaul - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul Patch.esp
AI Overhaul - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
KSHairdosSMP_unisex.esp
CBBE.esp
LyraBrighton.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
TDE_TeldrynDialogue.esp
ReturnAegisbane.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
RSChildren.esp
RealisticRSChildren.esp
Aventus Aretino - Fully Voiced - Realistic RS Children Patch.esp
Project ja-Kha'jay- Khajiit Diversity.esp
JKJ - AI Overhaul Patch.esp
JKJ - MCS Patch.esp
JKJ - USSEP Patch.esp
JKJ- Ohmes Risaad Restored.esp
SkyrimMaiqReplacer.esp
MCS - Core TNG Patch.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
No Fall Damage for House Cats_ACatsLife.esp
LakeHaven predator spawns moved.esp
ILQE_AAA_Patch.esp
Innocence Lost - Aretino Residence Patch.esp
Innocence Lost QE - USSEP Patch.esp
Refined Volkihars.esp
ImGladYoureHere.esp
AdoptionAndMovingFix.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
HIMBO.esp
RaceMenuMorphsHIMBO.esp
XPMSE.esp
UIExtensions.esp
Fabled Forests - Ivy on Trees.esp
Fare Thee Well__Lollia.esp
FNIS.esp
Children of the Pariah.esp
CotP - AIO Patch.esp
CotP-USSEP Patch.esp
BetterArgonianHorns.esp
Children of the Hist.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
TSR_MarryTeldrynSero.esp
Dynamic Activation Key.esp
Hearthfire Extended Multiple Adoptions Patch.esp
Jump100.esp
Jump125.esp
Jump150.esp
Jump200.esp
Jump250.esp
Jump300.esp
Jump350.esp
Jump85.esp
HearthfireMultiKid [PATCH - AIPackage Tweaks].esp
Sforzinda's Recolours - Blacklight Chitin Standalone.esp
ImmersiveInteractions.esp
RMB SPID - Core.esp
ImmersiveInteractions - Pet the Cats - Cats Life by Xtudo.esp
PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
RRSC-AIO-Patch.esp
Aymarandfriends.esp
RRSC AIO Patch.esp
TeldrynReplacer.esp
Sforzinda's Recolours - Blacklight Chitin Standalone - Teldryn Serious Patch.esp
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
KS Hairdos - True Unisex Patch.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul_NPC.esp
Better Vampires.esp
NPC Appearances Merged.esp
PAN_NPCs.esp
PAN-AIO Patch.esp
PAN_NPCs CuttingRoomFloor PATCH.esp
nwsFollowerFramework.esp
nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp
Check for conflits in SSEDIT.
Make sure you know this mod is not compatible with highpoly heads,a nd it must be used with vanilla head as explained in description.
Besides the ESP\plugin, you'll also need to make sure you uninstall the NPC facegen files, or the mod may still cause conflicts.
but first you need to identify the culprit in SSEDIT